1 00:00:01,380 --> 00:00:07,280 foreign 2 00:00:07,290 --> 00:00:37,990 [Music] 3 00:00:44,410 --> 00:00:41,930 Blast Off on another episode of the hero 4 00:00:47,889 --> 00:00:44,420 paranormal podcast the hyper anomalous 5 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:47,899 esoteric research organization podcast 6 00:00:54,290 --> 00:00:50,640 is broadcasting from the base at la 7 00:00:56,930 --> 00:00:54,300 Madre Mountain just south of area 51. my 8 00:00:58,910 --> 00:00:56,940 name is Ryan the anomalous ambassador of 9 00:01:02,689 --> 00:00:58,920 the airwaves bringing you an epic 10 00:01:05,630 --> 00:01:02,699 episode today on today's episode we have 11 00:01:08,570 --> 00:01:05,640 Eric the adventurer who is very much an 12 00:01:10,609 --> 00:01:08,580 adventurer I first met Eric years ago 13 00:01:12,950 --> 00:01:10,619 through a mutual friend and have been 14 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:12,960 astounded by his commitment to research 15 00:01:18,469 --> 00:01:15,960 and his level of devotion when it comes 16 00:01:21,289 --> 00:01:18,479 to digging in into conspiracy the 17 00:01:23,690 --> 00:01:21,299 Paranormal and mysterious dimensional 18 00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:23,700 parallels since meeting him he's 19 00:01:29,469 --> 00:01:26,340 introduced me to an array of outstanding 20 00:01:32,810 --> 00:01:29,479 individuals included but not limiting to 21 00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:32,820 Gigi bresler Jeff frenell Jimmy church 22 00:01:38,810 --> 00:01:36,060 and Rick Doty Eric is not only extremely 23 00:01:40,910 --> 00:01:38,820 connected but he is a devout researcher 24 00:01:43,550 --> 00:01:40,920 who isn't scared to go into the field 25 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:43,560 and make contact with the entities 26 00:01:48,649 --> 00:01:46,159 beyond the control limits of our reality 27 00:01:50,929 --> 00:01:48,659 Eric's story is not of a single 28 00:01:53,749 --> 00:01:50,939 individual but a realistic and 29 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:53,759 inspirational Saga of his constant 30 00:02:00,170 --> 00:01:56,640 Adventures I mean he's always going 31 00:02:02,450 --> 00:02:00,180 somewhere doing something he often drops 32 00:02:04,069 --> 00:02:02,460 everything to pursue answers and 33 00:02:07,490 --> 00:02:04,079 Enlightenment which has propelled him 34 00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:07,500 into mysterious areas of our Earth which 35 00:02:12,770 --> 00:02:09,780 are endowed with mystical energies 36 00:02:15,530 --> 00:02:12,780 entities and often findings which just 37 00:02:17,809 --> 00:02:15,540 can't really easily be explained this 38 00:02:21,110 --> 00:02:17,819 conversation should give us some insight 39 00:02:23,270 --> 00:02:21,120 into these often unseen Realms as Eric 40 00:02:25,089 --> 00:02:23,280 discusses his sense of what has taken 41 00:02:28,550 --> 00:02:25,099 place on his recent Adventures 42 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:28,560 operations and Journeys Eric welcome to 43 00:02:33,650 --> 00:02:31,140 the hero paranormal podcast 44 00:02:36,530 --> 00:02:33,660 hey Ryan good morning how are you oh I'm 45 00:02:38,809 --> 00:02:36,540 doing good I can't complain I'm I'm 46 00:02:41,030 --> 00:02:38,819 excited super excited to talk to you I 47 00:02:42,830 --> 00:02:41,040 know you've been out adventuring go 48 00:02:45,770 --> 00:02:42,840 figure and you've gone to some pretty 49 00:02:47,930 --> 00:02:45,780 remarkable remote and mysterious areas 50 00:02:52,009 --> 00:02:47,940 recently 51 00:02:55,330 --> 00:02:52,019 yes uh just went to the 2022 Pocatello 52 00:02:58,490 --> 00:02:55,340 Idaho uh Bigfoot rendezvous 53 00:02:59,990 --> 00:02:58,500 nice and Pocatello is actually kind of 54 00:03:02,150 --> 00:03:00,000 near and dear to my heart that's where 55 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:02,160 my grandfather was born and I remember 56 00:03:06,110 --> 00:03:04,319 him telling me stories about things that 57 00:03:08,750 --> 00:03:06,120 kind of went bump in the night up around 58 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:08,760 mink Creek and some of the other areas 59 00:03:13,190 --> 00:03:11,159 that I'm sure you came across a few 60 00:03:16,850 --> 00:03:13,200 stories yourself 61 00:03:20,149 --> 00:03:16,860 oh my God uh an amazing amount of sport 62 00:03:23,149 --> 00:03:20,159 stories we had Dr Jeff Meldrum who I 63 00:03:24,350 --> 00:03:23,159 wasn't I I think I was I knew the 64 00:03:25,910 --> 00:03:24,360 information at one time but had 65 00:03:27,770 --> 00:03:25,920 forgotten that he lives in Idaho he 66 00:03:29,149 --> 00:03:27,780 actually is a professor in Idaho so it's 67 00:03:31,970 --> 00:03:29,159 his hometown 68 00:03:34,550 --> 00:03:31,980 and then there was a cliff barackman who 69 00:03:36,009 --> 00:03:34,560 uh worked on the uh was it Finding 70 00:03:40,070 --> 00:03:36,019 Bigfoot is that the show that he did 71 00:03:42,170 --> 00:03:40,080 with the Bobo and and the other lady and 72 00:03:44,030 --> 00:03:42,180 uh so he was there he he's actually a 73 00:03:46,490 --> 00:03:44,040 really nice guy uh 74 00:03:48,589 --> 00:03:46,500 you know plethora of knowledge uh very 75 00:03:52,369 --> 00:03:48,599 he's kind of a more 76 00:03:54,710 --> 00:03:52,379 an exact kind of uh researcher uh 77 00:03:56,089 --> 00:03:54,720 looking for you know provable facts kind 78 00:03:58,250 --> 00:03:56,099 of like Jeff Meldrum which is cool 79 00:03:59,630 --> 00:03:58,260 that's fine and then I talked to him at 80 00:04:02,570 --> 00:03:59,640 the booth there he had his books on 81 00:04:04,490 --> 00:04:02,580 whatnot and I didn't realize it but he's 82 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:04,500 got a podcast with Bobo did you know 83 00:04:08,869 --> 00:04:07,200 that they've got a Bigfoot pop podcast I 84 00:04:11,570 --> 00:04:08,879 knew Bobo did but I didn't know that he 85 00:04:13,910 --> 00:04:11,580 had it with him and yeah it's really 86 00:04:16,009 --> 00:04:13,920 good actually I was I on my drive back 87 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:16,019 from Idaho I listened to two of the 88 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:17,519 shows and uh 89 00:04:22,550 --> 00:04:20,400 very high quality uh skills with great 90 00:04:24,050 --> 00:04:22,560 information and and I mean if you're a 91 00:04:26,689 --> 00:04:24,060 researcher and you're you're into 92 00:04:28,550 --> 00:04:26,699 Bigfoot and you want to get some tips on 93 00:04:31,189 --> 00:04:28,560 where to go and where the hot spots are 94 00:04:33,230 --> 00:04:31,199 and and what stories are you know 95 00:04:35,150 --> 00:04:33,240 turning out to be fake and what stories 96 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:35,160 might have some uh some you know some 97 00:04:38,689 --> 00:04:37,320 legitimacy to them that that was a good 98 00:04:40,430 --> 00:04:38,699 that was a that was a learning 99 00:04:41,570 --> 00:04:40,440 experience but yeah so that guy was 100 00:04:45,530 --> 00:04:41,580 there 101 00:04:48,650 --> 00:04:45,540 wrote five books about Bigfoot lives in 102 00:04:50,689 --> 00:04:48,660 Idaho Bigfoot still lives in Idaho uh I 103 00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:50,699 mean all these books about Bigfoot in 104 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:53,160 Idaho and she uh she was actually the 105 00:04:57,830 --> 00:04:54,900 reason why I went down there because I 106 00:04:59,749 --> 00:04:57,840 met her about a year ago and uh she took 107 00:05:01,790 --> 00:04:59,759 me to I asked her I said well you've got 108 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:01,800 all these stories in your books she's 109 00:05:05,870 --> 00:05:03,360 been collecting these stories for years 110 00:05:07,850 --> 00:05:05,880 which is cool I mean she's uh she 111 00:05:10,189 --> 00:05:07,860 documents these stories of people that 112 00:05:11,689 --> 00:05:10,199 in Idaho that have had experiences with 113 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:11,699 Bigfoot and then she writes books about 114 00:05:15,710 --> 00:05:13,680 him and I asked her I said well what 115 00:05:18,290 --> 00:05:15,720 what caused you to become interested in 116 00:05:21,050 --> 00:05:18,300 Bigfoot and it turned out that she grew 117 00:05:23,210 --> 00:05:21,060 up on a on a reservation I'm not I don't 118 00:05:25,129 --> 00:05:23,220 recall the name of the reservation 119 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:25,139 but I asked her I said well you're a 120 00:05:29,510 --> 00:05:27,120 Caucasian person how is it that you're 121 00:05:31,689 --> 00:05:29,520 able to live on the Indian reservation 122 00:05:34,430 --> 00:05:31,699 and she explained about how her father 123 00:05:36,110 --> 00:05:34,440 uh years ago I mean we're I don't know 124 00:05:38,950 --> 00:05:36,120 how many years ago but a long time ago I 125 00:05:42,290 --> 00:05:38,960 think Becky's probably close to 60 now 126 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:42,300 was uh there was a some sort of uh 127 00:05:47,330 --> 00:05:45,180 agreement amongst this specific tribe 128 00:05:50,210 --> 00:05:47,340 that they were going to allow her father 129 00:05:53,270 --> 00:05:50,220 to you know lease or buy a portion of 130 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:53,280 land on the reservation 131 00:05:56,629 --> 00:05:55,080 um I don't know exactly the whole story 132 00:05:58,189 --> 00:05:56,639 behind that one day I hope to get it 133 00:06:00,529 --> 00:05:58,199 actually but anyway 134 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:00,539 um so she said that on the reservation 135 00:06:07,070 --> 00:06:04,080 there that the Bigfoot uh came and go as 136 00:06:10,670 --> 00:06:07,080 they please and she she saw them as a 137 00:06:12,409 --> 00:06:10,680 child and she even uh felt like she was 138 00:06:15,110 --> 00:06:12,419 having some sort of communication with 139 00:06:16,909 --> 00:06:15,120 them interacting with them uh you know 140 00:06:20,210 --> 00:06:16,919 non-verbal communication mind speak 141 00:06:21,650 --> 00:06:20,220 whatever and that intrigued me uh and 142 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,660 she's when she tells these stories 143 00:06:25,850 --> 00:06:23,520 what's amazing is uh 144 00:06:28,309 --> 00:06:25,860 if there's really no fear in anything 145 00:06:31,070 --> 00:06:28,319 she says she's really kind of uh she 146 00:06:32,990 --> 00:06:31,080 smiles about it she's she kind of almost 147 00:06:35,390 --> 00:06:33,000 Chuckles a little bit sometimes it's 148 00:06:37,189 --> 00:06:35,400 almost like I get it though because uh 149 00:06:39,110 --> 00:06:37,199 sometimes even when I'm telling stories 150 00:06:40,850 --> 00:06:39,120 I kind of laugh a little bit not because 151 00:06:43,249 --> 00:06:40,860 I'm trying to fool anybody it's just 152 00:06:45,469 --> 00:06:43,259 because it sounds so crazy it sounds so 153 00:06:47,270 --> 00:06:45,479 wild that you just think No One's Gonna 154 00:06:50,570 --> 00:06:47,280 believe this but here it goes you know 155 00:06:53,270 --> 00:06:50,580 those kind of deals but uh yeah so Becky 156 00:06:55,070 --> 00:06:53,280 was there uh she uh and then who else 157 00:06:56,749 --> 00:06:55,080 was there there was um let me think 158 00:06:58,610 --> 00:06:56,759 about this oh there's a lady we'll talk 159 00:07:01,730 --> 00:06:58,620 about this actually today in this 160 00:07:03,950 --> 00:07:01,740 interview I mean Roxanne who was part of 161 00:07:05,749 --> 00:07:03,960 a Blackfoot tribe up there I believe and 162 00:07:08,390 --> 00:07:05,759 uh her daughter was there 163 00:07:11,450 --> 00:07:08,400 and uh let's see who else there's 164 00:07:14,210 --> 00:07:11,460 another group called Sasquatch 165 00:07:16,850 --> 00:07:14,220 America or Sasquatch America is about 166 00:07:19,070 --> 00:07:16,860 this couple they're in their 60s both 167 00:07:22,010 --> 00:07:19,080 professional people owned a home with 168 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:22,020 family one was a teacher and I think 169 00:07:25,129 --> 00:07:23,520 they went camping in Oregon up there 170 00:07:26,270 --> 00:07:25,139 near the Blue Mountains and had an 171 00:07:29,450 --> 00:07:26,280 experience 172 00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:29,460 and it so shook him and altered his 173 00:07:34,010 --> 00:07:32,220 viewpoint on reality that him and his 174 00:07:35,510 --> 00:07:34,020 wife got to talk and during the covet 175 00:07:37,309 --> 00:07:35,520 and just said you know let's just quit 176 00:07:39,529 --> 00:07:37,319 our jobs and let's just go research 177 00:07:41,749 --> 00:07:39,539 Bigfoot so now they go around the 178 00:07:44,210 --> 00:07:41,759 country doing kind of what I'm doing uh 179 00:07:46,010 --> 00:07:44,220 researching Bigfoot stories so and 180 00:07:47,749 --> 00:07:46,020 they're all fired up about that would be 181 00:07:49,969 --> 00:07:47,759 a great interview by the way I'll hook 182 00:07:51,650 --> 00:07:49,979 you up with those people but I could go 183 00:07:52,730 --> 00:07:51,660 on and on and on so I'll just set up for 184 00:07:55,010 --> 00:07:52,740 a second and let you ask me some 185 00:07:56,510 --> 00:07:55,020 questions or talk to me if you wanted oh 186 00:07:59,450 --> 00:07:56,520 man that's cool 187 00:08:00,830 --> 00:07:59,460 um yeah no that's great news it is the 188 00:08:02,749 --> 00:08:00,840 Blackfoot tribe up there I remember 189 00:08:05,870 --> 00:08:02,759 hearing stories about the Blackfoot 190 00:08:09,230 --> 00:08:05,880 reservation for my grandfather and you 191 00:08:11,689 --> 00:08:09,240 know Bobo and crew in my opinion are the 192 00:08:14,089 --> 00:08:11,699 best of the best Matt money maker 193 00:08:16,909 --> 00:08:14,099 seldom gets involved in things or 194 00:08:19,430 --> 00:08:16,919 projects which don't pan out and I've 195 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:19,440 been blessed enough to go on a Bigfoot 196 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:22,319 Expedition with Matt and his clan and 197 00:08:26,650 --> 00:08:24,240 they're very professional in all their 198 00:08:29,869 --> 00:08:26,660 Endeavors not to mention he's a good guy 199 00:08:32,149 --> 00:08:29,879 the BFRO or the real deal in my opinion 200 00:08:34,909 --> 00:08:32,159 but nevertheless yes the Blackfoot tribe 201 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,919 has a long history with the man of the 202 00:08:40,010 --> 00:08:36,719 mountain or Sasquatch 203 00:08:43,909 --> 00:08:40,020 um and I I don't doubt for a minute that 204 00:08:46,250 --> 00:08:43,919 there is a ton of activity up there 205 00:08:48,530 --> 00:08:46,260 yeah and there was a there's another guy 206 00:08:50,389 --> 00:08:48,540 that I met last year when I was up there 207 00:08:52,310 --> 00:08:50,399 uh I was in Montana 208 00:08:54,710 --> 00:08:52,320 uh I think we talked about that before 209 00:08:56,389 --> 00:08:54,720 uh on on the previous interview I might 210 00:08:58,490 --> 00:08:56,399 have did about my expedition in Montana 211 00:09:01,190 --> 00:08:58,500 last year but on my way back I stopped 212 00:09:02,570 --> 00:09:01,200 in Idaho and when I met Becky this was 213 00:09:04,850 --> 00:09:02,580 actually the very first time I met her 214 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:04,860 in person I asked her I go is there 215 00:09:08,990 --> 00:09:06,720 anybody that you can contact that you've 216 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:09,000 done an interview with that we can go 217 00:09:12,170 --> 00:09:10,560 out and then I can I'll buy him dinner I 218 00:09:14,090 --> 00:09:12,180 just I just want to I just want to hear 219 00:09:16,670 --> 00:09:14,100 their story or maybe go to their to 220 00:09:18,650 --> 00:09:16,680 their home or to their area and just get 221 00:09:20,389 --> 00:09:18,660 a feel for it and so she called this guy 222 00:09:22,790 --> 00:09:20,399 up Named Dave 223 00:09:26,210 --> 00:09:22,800 and uh he lives out there in Swan Valley 224 00:09:28,730 --> 00:09:26,220 he's got a ranch huge acreage Ranch out 225 00:09:30,889 --> 00:09:28,740 there I mean the road goes into the into 226 00:09:32,449 --> 00:09:30,899 the BLM land like a forest service road 227 00:09:36,470 --> 00:09:32,459 but he's just you know outside of that 228 00:09:38,090 --> 00:09:36,480 anyway so we got to his house and um 229 00:09:39,769 --> 00:09:38,100 and so we're sitting on the porch out 230 00:09:41,570 --> 00:09:39,779 there and he's you know we're just kind 231 00:09:44,449 --> 00:09:41,580 of talking about Bigfoot stories and so 232 00:09:46,850 --> 00:09:44,459 on and then and then uh Becky had to go 233 00:09:47,990 --> 00:09:46,860 home with her husband so we went inside 234 00:09:50,389 --> 00:09:48,000 his house 235 00:09:52,250 --> 00:09:50,399 and he's got a huge cast uh I've got a 236 00:09:54,110 --> 00:09:52,260 picture of it I'll send it to you but a 237 00:09:56,329 --> 00:09:54,120 huge cast of a big footprint that he got 238 00:09:58,730 --> 00:09:56,339 not too far from his house up in the 239 00:10:01,070 --> 00:09:58,740 mountains and he was telling me about 240 00:10:04,009 --> 00:10:01,080 these nests he calls them nests these 241 00:10:05,329 --> 00:10:04,019 tree structures that were uh built with 242 00:10:07,070 --> 00:10:05,339 with uh 243 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:07,080 you know pine needles and things and 244 00:10:10,009 --> 00:10:08,640 bushes and stuff kind of wrapped around 245 00:10:12,470 --> 00:10:10,019 them kind of like a like a little 246 00:10:15,290 --> 00:10:12,480 Hideout type thing and he showed me 247 00:10:17,210 --> 00:10:15,300 pictures of them and I says wow and I he 248 00:10:19,009 --> 00:10:17,220 says and then he tells me that yeah he 249 00:10:21,410 --> 00:10:19,019 goes when he first found these nests 250 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:21,420 when he was hunting he started taking 251 00:10:24,829 --> 00:10:22,740 him apart 252 00:10:26,329 --> 00:10:24,839 and I thought to myself dude what are 253 00:10:27,650 --> 00:10:26,339 you doing that man I don't know if these 254 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:27,660 if these Bigfoot are going to be happy 255 00:10:32,509 --> 00:10:30,000 about you taking apart their mess 256 00:10:33,889 --> 00:10:32,519 and this guy's a rebel he says well you 257 00:10:35,930 --> 00:10:33,899 know I thought if I took it apart a 258 00:10:37,490 --> 00:10:35,940 little bit and then they would have to 259 00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:37,500 rebuild it and so if they actually 260 00:10:41,990 --> 00:10:39,959 rebuilt it then I can have evidence 261 00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:42,000 that you know that they were you know 262 00:10:46,250 --> 00:10:43,320 what I'm saying it was his way of trying 263 00:10:49,250 --> 00:10:46,260 to catch him in a rebuild mode 264 00:10:52,069 --> 00:10:49,260 so anyway so fast forwarding uh excuse 265 00:10:55,009 --> 00:10:52,079 me another story told me that day was uh 266 00:10:56,990 --> 00:10:55,019 there's some apple trees out on his uh 267 00:10:58,610 --> 00:10:57,000 out on his property way out there 268 00:10:59,990 --> 00:10:58,620 probably about 100 yards you could see 269 00:11:02,569 --> 00:11:00,000 him from his house they're huge apple 270 00:11:04,190 --> 00:11:02,579 trees I mean these apple trees are 271 00:11:06,290 --> 00:11:04,200 literally like they're on stairways 272 00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:06,300 they're three four times taller than a 273 00:11:10,069 --> 00:11:08,640 regular apple tree and uh they're right 274 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:10,079 on this little creek I'm guessing that's 275 00:11:15,290 --> 00:11:12,060 why because it's got constant water and 276 00:11:17,090 --> 00:11:15,300 anyway he says that every year uh they 277 00:11:19,490 --> 00:11:17,100 he loves these apples he makes apple 278 00:11:21,470 --> 00:11:19,500 pies and stuff like that he really digs 279 00:11:22,550 --> 00:11:21,480 his apples but he says every year they 280 00:11:25,310 --> 00:11:22,560 come by 281 00:11:27,069 --> 00:11:25,320 uh and they he thinks it's the Bigfoot 282 00:11:29,930 --> 00:11:27,079 better stealing the apples off this tree 283 00:11:32,690 --> 00:11:29,940 and so this time when I went out I did I 284 00:11:34,610 --> 00:11:32,700 wasn't able to see these trees the first 285 00:11:36,290 --> 00:11:34,620 time I was there because it was dark so 286 00:11:37,490 --> 00:11:36,300 this year when I went out there I says I 287 00:11:38,990 --> 00:11:37,500 got to go out there I got to look at 288 00:11:41,210 --> 00:11:39,000 these trees I got to analyze this I'm 289 00:11:44,090 --> 00:11:41,220 trying to figure out my head okay so is 290 00:11:46,490 --> 00:11:44,100 this even a possible real story and and 291 00:11:50,210 --> 00:11:46,500 the thing these trees are so tall 292 00:11:51,350 --> 00:11:50,220 there's no way that a a deer or an elk 293 00:11:55,730 --> 00:11:51,360 or 294 00:11:58,430 --> 00:11:55,740 out in the middle of the ranch there's 295 00:12:00,290 --> 00:11:58,440 no way that that they could just survive 296 00:12:02,690 --> 00:12:00,300 I mean in other words the the bottom 297 00:12:04,550 --> 00:12:02,700 line is this is that it's plausible very 298 00:12:06,290 --> 00:12:04,560 plausible that the Bigfoot are coming 299 00:12:08,690 --> 00:12:06,300 and stealing these apples off this tree 300 00:12:10,009 --> 00:12:08,700 based on just all that I analyzed in 301 00:12:12,350 --> 00:12:10,019 that moment 302 00:12:15,170 --> 00:12:12,360 and then he had this huge Barn 303 00:12:16,970 --> 00:12:15,180 a huge Barn that the doors were open on 304 00:12:18,350 --> 00:12:16,980 both ends of the barn and was out there 305 00:12:20,750 --> 00:12:18,360 in the field and there was nothing in 306 00:12:23,090 --> 00:12:20,760 the barn and so I just took a walk out 307 00:12:25,970 --> 00:12:23,100 there just to kind of check it out and 308 00:12:27,710 --> 00:12:25,980 uh I found Footprints in this barn but I 309 00:12:29,269 --> 00:12:27,720 didn't tell him I I just saw him I said 310 00:12:31,550 --> 00:12:29,279 this is they weren't huge they were but 311 00:12:33,170 --> 00:12:31,560 they were definitely Footprints and so I 312 00:12:35,690 --> 00:12:33,180 came back to the house after I did my 313 00:12:37,130 --> 00:12:35,700 little research walk out there and I 314 00:12:39,050 --> 00:12:37,140 said so what are you keeping that barn 315 00:12:43,370 --> 00:12:39,060 out there 316 00:12:46,910 --> 00:12:43,380 he says that he goes I think the Bigfoot 317 00:12:49,310 --> 00:12:46,920 we're staying out there and I said I 318 00:12:50,870 --> 00:12:49,320 said really he goes yeah and I says well 319 00:12:52,310 --> 00:12:50,880 I saw some Footprints out there he says 320 00:12:53,870 --> 00:12:52,320 yeah I think they used to go through 321 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,880 there and they we used to stay out there 322 00:12:57,829 --> 00:12:55,680 but uh he goes I don't bother with him 323 00:12:59,810 --> 00:12:57,839 he says uh they don't bother me and I 324 00:13:01,490 --> 00:12:59,820 don't bother them so anyway it was kind 325 00:13:05,269 --> 00:13:01,500 of a love story 326 00:13:06,530 --> 00:13:05,279 um so yeah so that's kind of uh I think 327 00:13:08,090 --> 00:13:06,540 I think I'll pause there and let you 328 00:13:09,590 --> 00:13:08,100 interject anything because I could go on 329 00:13:12,829 --> 00:13:09,600 and on and on forever on these stories 330 00:13:15,050 --> 00:13:12,839 yeah and you know the prints are a big 331 00:13:18,410 --> 00:13:15,060 Telltale sign when it comes to Bigfoot 332 00:13:20,810 --> 00:13:18,420 hunting and this is something that 333 00:13:22,850 --> 00:13:20,820 people often dispel as not being 334 00:13:24,410 --> 00:13:22,860 physical proof but it very much is 335 00:13:26,509 --> 00:13:24,420 especially when you're dealing with 336 00:13:28,850 --> 00:13:26,519 something that half of the segment that 337 00:13:30,769 --> 00:13:28,860 researches it figures may have 338 00:13:33,530 --> 00:13:30,779 dimensional aspects and may have the 339 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:33,540 ability to uh play hide and seek a lot 340 00:13:38,329 --> 00:13:35,760 better than us 341 00:13:41,810 --> 00:13:38,339 um now in the conference uh did you have 342 00:13:43,370 --> 00:13:41,820 the full gamut of those obviously uh the 343 00:13:46,370 --> 00:13:43,380 BFRO 344 00:13:48,610 --> 00:13:46,380 um Jeff Meldrum and that camp are very 345 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:48,620 nuts and bolts physical evidence 346 00:13:55,850 --> 00:13:53,040 Gathering type researchers however there 347 00:13:58,490 --> 00:13:55,860 are also Cutting Edge researchers in the 348 00:14:01,490 --> 00:13:58,500 dimensional aspects of uh 349 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:01,500 big Bigfoot research who claimed that 350 00:14:06,710 --> 00:14:05,040 Bigfoot may have the ability to much 351 00:14:10,550 --> 00:14:06,720 like a 352 00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:10,560 extra dimensional Predator be able to 353 00:14:16,490 --> 00:14:13,680 somehow connect to things we can't and 354 00:14:18,590 --> 00:14:16,500 disperse and disappear in the forest in 355 00:14:20,750 --> 00:14:18,600 ways we don't understand did you come 356 00:14:22,430 --> 00:14:20,760 across anybody along those lines while 357 00:14:25,910 --> 00:14:22,440 you were up there 358 00:14:27,470 --> 00:14:25,920 yeah the one Indian lady that spoke and 359 00:14:29,629 --> 00:14:27,480 I've heard this from other Indian tribes 360 00:14:31,610 --> 00:14:29,639 that they their belief is that they walk 361 00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:31,620 in both worlds is how they describe it 362 00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:35,519 that these teachers can move you know in 363 00:14:40,610 --> 00:14:38,160 and out of the dimensions possibly or 364 00:14:41,930 --> 00:14:40,620 possibly cloak and actually interesting 365 00:14:44,449 --> 00:14:41,940 you mentioned I think you mentioned 366 00:14:46,850 --> 00:14:44,459 cloaking uh there was a guy who I mean 367 00:14:49,129 --> 00:14:46,860 what's cool about doing research on for 368 00:14:50,509 --> 00:14:49,139 example I'm on Twitter so people know 369 00:14:52,910 --> 00:14:50,519 that I'm doing research I just post 370 00:14:55,250 --> 00:14:52,920 everything I get and then people comment 371 00:14:57,650 --> 00:14:55,260 or they send me their own research and 372 00:14:59,569 --> 00:14:57,660 this guy had this video of a guy that 373 00:15:02,030 --> 00:14:59,579 had taken it on Tick Tock I'll find the 374 00:15:04,370 --> 00:15:02,040 video and send it to you and uh you know 375 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:04,380 of course any video potentially can be 376 00:15:09,170 --> 00:15:06,480 faked I get that but if you look at 377 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:09,180 enough videos you could tell that if a 378 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:11,220 video has plausibility or whatnot and 379 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:13,980 this guy sent me a video of what looked 380 00:15:20,629 --> 00:15:17,360 to me like it's clearly a cloaking 381 00:15:22,850 --> 00:15:20,639 Bigfoot on this road in this Forest 382 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,860 where you could see the outline of what 383 00:15:26,990 --> 00:15:24,720 looks like a Bigfoot you could see it 384 00:15:28,670 --> 00:15:27,000 moving but there was no there was 385 00:15:30,290 --> 00:15:28,680 nothing there physically but you could 386 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:30,300 just see like the Predator kind of like 387 00:15:36,050 --> 00:15:33,600 the the image of it and the way it was 388 00:15:39,110 --> 00:15:36,060 shot it looked real so I mean if 389 00:15:40,850 --> 00:15:39,120 somebody faked this uh they must have 390 00:15:42,710 --> 00:15:40,860 some sort of a program on their computer 391 00:15:44,810 --> 00:15:42,720 that I'm not aware of because I couldn't 392 00:15:46,129 --> 00:15:44,820 uh it was a hell it would have been a 393 00:15:48,590 --> 00:15:46,139 hell of a fake 394 00:15:50,750 --> 00:15:48,600 but yeah so the Bigfoot cloaking is uh 395 00:15:53,810 --> 00:15:50,760 is interesting uh let me do this before 396 00:15:58,009 --> 00:15:53,820 we go in back into this uh this Idaho 397 00:16:01,129 --> 00:15:58,019 conference go back to uh to um Dave so 398 00:16:02,210 --> 00:16:01,139 this time around uh after I'm gonna skip 399 00:16:03,650 --> 00:16:02,220 forward a little bit after the 400 00:16:05,750 --> 00:16:03,660 conference so I don't forget the story 401 00:16:07,730 --> 00:16:05,760 after the conference was over 402 00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:07,740 I asked Dave if I could come out to his 403 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:10,260 property uh in the daytime and he can go 404 00:16:14,210 --> 00:16:12,120 take me out to this area that he had 405 00:16:15,769 --> 00:16:14,220 told me about that he had taken pictures 406 00:16:17,810 --> 00:16:15,779 of him where he saw the nests and he 407 00:16:19,550 --> 00:16:17,820 said sure So I went out there and we 408 00:16:21,769 --> 00:16:19,560 took the drive up this up the road and 409 00:16:23,870 --> 00:16:21,779 we're we're in this Forest Area and I I 410 00:16:26,030 --> 00:16:23,880 recorded everything got it all on video 411 00:16:28,370 --> 00:16:26,040 and we pulled over on this area where 412 00:16:29,689 --> 00:16:28,380 there's this uh it's not a forest well 413 00:16:31,009 --> 00:16:29,699 we're on a Forest Road but then there's 414 00:16:32,689 --> 00:16:31,019 like a game Trail 415 00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:32,699 not a human Trail you know a game Trail 416 00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:34,320 they're kind of skinny you could tell 417 00:16:37,970 --> 00:16:36,480 that it's where animals come and go and 418 00:16:40,249 --> 00:16:37,980 so we started walking down this game 419 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:40,259 Trail and then uh he says I know these 420 00:16:44,210 --> 00:16:41,880 these tree structures it's been a few 421 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:44,220 years he said since I've been here but I 422 00:16:46,970 --> 00:16:45,420 know they're they're right around here 423 00:16:49,129 --> 00:16:46,980 somewhere so we're walking through and 424 00:16:51,290 --> 00:16:49,139 I'm and I'm recording I says I said do 425 00:16:52,970 --> 00:16:51,300 you see this right here have you and he 426 00:16:54,829 --> 00:16:52,980 goes what's that I go look see how this 427 00:16:56,810 --> 00:16:54,839 tree is bent over 428 00:16:58,730 --> 00:16:56,820 and then it's pinned down underneath 429 00:17:01,129 --> 00:16:58,740 this other tree I says this is a 430 00:17:02,990 --> 00:17:01,139 Telltale sign because trees can't be 431 00:17:04,970 --> 00:17:03,000 bent over I mean you could see trees 432 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:04,980 that are bent but when they're bent and 433 00:17:07,669 --> 00:17:06,240 then you've got and then they're pushed 434 00:17:09,650 --> 00:17:07,679 down underneath another tree like 435 00:17:12,110 --> 00:17:09,660 they're kind of pinned down to me that's 436 00:17:13,549 --> 00:17:12,120 uh I've only seen that a few times but a 437 00:17:15,230 --> 00:17:13,559 lot of Bigfoot researchers believe 438 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:15,240 that's a sign 439 00:17:19,010 --> 00:17:16,799 so anyway we're walking along and then 440 00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,020 all of a sudden I look to my left and I 441 00:17:22,970 --> 00:17:21,120 see all these trees and branches and 442 00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:22,980 kind of piled up and leaned up against 443 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:24,600 this other tree and I thought right away 444 00:17:29,090 --> 00:17:26,640 I go this must be the spot because this 445 00:17:31,669 --> 00:17:29,100 is this looks to me like like a 446 00:17:33,530 --> 00:17:31,679 structure or a nest and he so he starts 447 00:17:36,289 --> 00:17:33,540 walking over there and and he's 448 00:17:37,970 --> 00:17:36,299 describing how this Nest uh how it is 449 00:17:40,430 --> 00:17:37,980 now compared to how it was before he 450 00:17:42,289 --> 00:17:40,440 says yeah this Nest has been broken up a 451 00:17:44,029 --> 00:17:42,299 little bit and it's not what it was once 452 00:17:47,150 --> 00:17:44,039 before and he's saying that at one time 453 00:17:49,430 --> 00:17:47,160 there was all these these uh branches 454 00:17:51,710 --> 00:17:49,440 and bushes and pine needles all around 455 00:17:53,450 --> 00:17:51,720 it and he's describing it and then 456 00:17:56,810 --> 00:17:53,460 here's what it was to me this was good 457 00:17:58,850 --> 00:17:56,820 evidence so right underneath this tree 458 00:18:00,950 --> 00:17:58,860 he goes look up in this tree right here 459 00:18:03,950 --> 00:18:00,960 so I'm looking up and I'm recording and 460 00:18:06,110 --> 00:18:03,960 there's about eight or nine branches 461 00:18:08,029 --> 00:18:06,120 that were just snapped off on this tree 462 00:18:10,730 --> 00:18:08,039 and then above that you've got regular 463 00:18:12,289 --> 00:18:10,740 healthy tree growth coming out and it 464 00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:12,299 was so and you and when you're looking 465 00:18:16,310 --> 00:18:14,160 at these branches that have been snapped 466 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:16,320 off you could tell that this didn't 467 00:18:20,390 --> 00:18:17,940 happen naturally I mean it's pretty 468 00:18:21,950 --> 00:18:20,400 obvious so he says you see here this is 469 00:18:24,110 --> 00:18:21,960 where they went up there they climbed up 470 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:24,120 there they snapped off these these tree 471 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:25,860 branches and these are the branches 472 00:18:29,570 --> 00:18:27,120 you're looking at right here that they 473 00:18:30,830 --> 00:18:29,580 use to make this structure and it's like 474 00:18:32,270 --> 00:18:30,840 he's painting the picture and I'm 475 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:32,280 thinking in my mind that you know I 476 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,600 can't argue with this there's nothing 477 00:18:37,190 --> 00:18:35,520 he's telling me that that I'm going to 478 00:18:39,770 --> 00:18:37,200 try to debunk because it makes sense 479 00:18:42,169 --> 00:18:39,780 what he's showing me and so we saw a few 480 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:42,179 other little structures uh he goes I 481 00:18:45,710 --> 00:18:43,740 start walking in deeper into the forest 482 00:18:47,570 --> 00:18:45,720 and I said can I I'm just going to walk 483 00:18:48,890 --> 00:18:47,580 over here he goes oh uh there's nothing 484 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:48,900 over there I go well you haven't been 485 00:18:52,909 --> 00:18:50,940 here for a few years you never know so 486 00:18:54,650 --> 00:18:52,919 like and then I found another structure 487 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:54,660 that he didn't even know was there maybe 488 00:18:59,930 --> 00:18:57,600 it wasn't there two years ago 489 00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:59,940 and so anyway we're now walking down 490 00:19:04,250 --> 00:19:02,160 this pathway and uh we're seeing all 491 00:19:05,990 --> 00:19:04,260 these prints on the ground none of them 492 00:19:07,549 --> 00:19:06,000 were big Footprints as we're walking but 493 00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,559 all different types of other prints you 494 00:19:12,409 --> 00:19:09,840 know whether it was deer or or Bobcats 495 00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:12,419 or there's all sorts of uh Bears I mean 496 00:19:15,710 --> 00:19:13,919 there's this area he says it's just 497 00:19:17,330 --> 00:19:15,720 filled with wildlife and then he goes 498 00:19:19,789 --> 00:19:17,340 we're going to go to the magnet and I 499 00:19:21,950 --> 00:19:19,799 says what do you mean the magnet he goes 500 00:19:23,570 --> 00:19:21,960 this is the pond down here it's uh it's 501 00:19:25,370 --> 00:19:23,580 it's this is where these animals this is 502 00:19:27,470 --> 00:19:25,380 why there's this Trail here because this 503 00:19:29,029 --> 00:19:27,480 is where they go to drink the water so 504 00:19:30,830 --> 00:19:29,039 we go down there and there's we're down 505 00:19:32,570 --> 00:19:30,840 at this Pond and there's it's got this 506 00:19:34,669 --> 00:19:32,580 muddy embankment all the way around it 507 00:19:36,890 --> 00:19:34,679 and there's all sorts of different types 508 00:19:38,570 --> 00:19:36,900 of footprints in this mud I've got 509 00:19:40,909 --> 00:19:38,580 pictures of this too and so we're 510 00:19:42,890 --> 00:19:40,919 walking around this this mud Pond uh 511 00:19:44,570 --> 00:19:42,900 area where the dirt is and I'm looking 512 00:19:46,789 --> 00:19:44,580 I'm trying to see if I can see something 513 00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:46,799 that might be a big footprint 514 00:19:51,529 --> 00:19:49,440 and we come across this one print 515 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:51,539 two prints actually that were massive 516 00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:54,240 where this if let's just say it was a 517 00:19:57,890 --> 00:19:56,160 big foot I mean I can't prove it I don't 518 00:20:00,650 --> 00:19:57,900 know for sure it was but it certainly is 519 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:00,660 a huge footprint that was kind of turned 520 00:20:06,110 --> 00:20:03,480 sideways and then another print that was 521 00:20:08,390 --> 00:20:06,120 about 52 inches we measured out to the 522 00:20:10,789 --> 00:20:08,400 right closer to the water also sideways 523 00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:10,799 and so he says to me well this is where 524 00:20:16,130 --> 00:20:13,320 this Bigfoot stepped right here 525 00:20:18,409 --> 00:20:16,140 and then it put its other foot over here 526 00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:18,419 and then it probably leaned over and was 527 00:20:22,909 --> 00:20:20,700 drinking water and you so so it's his 528 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:22,919 imagination he's sharing to me what he 529 00:20:25,909 --> 00:20:24,360 believes happen and I'm looking and I'm 530 00:20:27,770 --> 00:20:25,919 thinking you know that that could be 531 00:20:29,450 --> 00:20:27,780 true I mean I could see where based on 532 00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:29,460 what he's telling me 533 00:20:32,810 --> 00:20:31,260 um it could be true 534 00:20:35,930 --> 00:20:32,820 um so anyway so we walked back there 535 00:20:39,529 --> 00:20:35,940 there was no uh nothing no sightings no 536 00:20:41,510 --> 00:20:39,539 sounds No tree knocks no wood clocks 537 00:20:43,789 --> 00:20:41,520 um but it was interesting but what was 538 00:20:45,529 --> 00:20:43,799 cool is the year before he told me these 539 00:20:47,090 --> 00:20:45,539 stories and now here I am seeing the 540 00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:47,100 evidence of the stories that he told me 541 00:20:51,650 --> 00:20:49,440 and I'm independently thinking without 542 00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,660 any kind of I don't want to just jump on 543 00:20:56,510 --> 00:20:53,280 this guy's bandwagon just because I like 544 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:56,520 the guy but but I felt when I saw if he 545 00:20:59,630 --> 00:20:58,080 hadn't showed it to me and I'd found it 546 00:21:01,850 --> 00:20:59,640 on my own I would have agreed with 547 00:21:03,470 --> 00:21:01,860 everything he said because everything he 548 00:21:05,330 --> 00:21:03,480 said is what I saw 549 00:21:06,470 --> 00:21:05,340 so I'll just pause there if you want to 550 00:21:07,610 --> 00:21:06,480 jump in 551 00:21:09,890 --> 00:21:07,620 so 552 00:21:11,510 --> 00:21:09,900 in his opinion 553 00:21:14,210 --> 00:21:11,520 I mean it sounds like there's a lot 554 00:21:17,210 --> 00:21:14,220 going on in the mix in his View 555 00:21:18,590 --> 00:21:17,220 through his window of research what did 556 00:21:42,770 --> 00:21:18,600 he 557 00:21:45,289 --> 00:21:42,780 for whatever reason in this particular 558 00:21:47,690 --> 00:21:45,299 area of Swan Valley for example Idaho's 559 00:21:49,610 --> 00:21:47,700 huge it's massive 560 00:21:51,590 --> 00:21:49,620 um so this particular area where I was 561 00:21:55,789 --> 00:21:51,600 at he says they come through typically 562 00:21:58,669 --> 00:21:55,799 around uh October November December 563 00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:58,679 and then they go somewhere else 564 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:01,200 I don't know he's not he's not actually 565 00:22:05,270 --> 00:22:03,720 a researcher he's he just lives out 566 00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:05,280 there and he's just had these 567 00:22:10,730 --> 00:22:07,740 experiences another story he told me uh 568 00:22:13,370 --> 00:22:10,740 last year when I was there that uh he's 569 00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:13,380 got property uh hunting and whatnot 570 00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:15,600 you're allowed to hunt in this part of 571 00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:17,100 Idaho you know if you've got proper you 572 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,720 could hunt on your property you got a 573 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:20,400 friend of his came up and wanted to do 574 00:22:24,169 --> 00:22:22,559 some hunting on his property and he let 575 00:22:26,990 --> 00:22:24,179 him go on his own and he's up there in 576 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:27,000 the woods and he found a pile of bones 577 00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:30,360 and of a variety of Bones and skill and 578 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,820 skeletal skeletons of a variety of 579 00:22:37,490 --> 00:22:34,320 different animals 580 00:22:39,169 --> 00:22:37,500 and uh he he said uh he didn't know what 581 00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:39,179 it was or why they were kind of piled up 582 00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:41,039 in this part of the mountain up here so 583 00:22:44,750 --> 00:22:43,020 he came back to the guy's house Dave and 584 00:22:46,510 --> 00:22:44,760 he told Dave he says you know I was 585 00:22:49,010 --> 00:22:46,520 hunting up there I found all these bones 586 00:22:50,750 --> 00:22:49,020 and uh and Dave thought he was pulling 587 00:22:52,430 --> 00:22:50,760 his leg Dave says oh yeah okay sure 588 00:22:53,870 --> 00:22:52,440 right whatever he thought he was just 589 00:22:55,730 --> 00:22:53,880 teasing him right so then after his 590 00:22:58,190 --> 00:22:55,740 buddy leaves Dave said that he went back 591 00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:58,200 up there uh the next day and he found 592 00:23:02,210 --> 00:23:00,000 the bones and he confirmed it and he 593 00:23:04,549 --> 00:23:02,220 says you know I don't know I don't know 594 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,559 what that was uh but those that was 595 00:23:09,230 --> 00:23:06,720 really weird so yeah he doesn't really 596 00:23:11,149 --> 00:23:09,240 this guy Dave um he tells he doesn't 597 00:23:13,549 --> 00:23:11,159 jump to any conclusions I mean he 598 00:23:15,529 --> 00:23:13,559 believes that there's Bigfoot 599 00:23:17,870 --> 00:23:15,539 um that he doesn't really uh jump to 600 00:23:19,430 --> 00:23:17,880 conclusions as to what like some people 601 00:23:21,950 --> 00:23:19,440 will theorize and then they'll try to 602 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:21,960 make their theories facts uh I'm just 603 00:23:25,549 --> 00:23:23,760 telling stories is when I I mean you 604 00:23:27,289 --> 00:23:25,559 know it is what it is now one other 605 00:23:28,490 --> 00:23:27,299 story that happened that last time I was 606 00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:28,500 there that was really trippy actually 607 00:23:31,850 --> 00:23:30,659 this really freaked me out is so we're 608 00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:31,860 in his kitchen we're telling he's 609 00:23:35,750 --> 00:23:33,780 talking to me and we'd show me some of 610 00:23:37,730 --> 00:23:35,760 his pictures in his books 611 00:23:40,310 --> 00:23:37,740 it was dark it was about 9 30 at night 612 00:23:42,770 --> 00:23:40,320 and where his property literally the 613 00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:42,780 next neighbor uh is about a half a mile 614 00:23:47,990 --> 00:23:45,600 away and uh this is a ranch home you 615 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:48,000 know older retired people out there you 616 00:23:50,990 --> 00:23:49,440 know and there's all these fences in 617 00:23:53,210 --> 00:23:51,000 between the home and there's just no 618 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:53,220 reason the neighbors just don't wander 619 00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,720 around up there when you live in the in 620 00:23:57,649 --> 00:23:56,640 the will in the forest area you're out 621 00:23:59,510 --> 00:23:57,659 there on a ranch you don't have 622 00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:59,520 neighbors just kind of walking up and 623 00:24:02,210 --> 00:24:00,840 knocking on your door in the middle of 624 00:24:03,710 --> 00:24:02,220 the night for no reason you know what 625 00:24:04,730 --> 00:24:03,720 I'm saying it just doesn't happen so 626 00:24:07,070 --> 00:24:04,740 we're sitting there and all of a sudden 627 00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:07,080 we hear this on the window 628 00:24:12,230 --> 00:24:08,820 the kitchen window 629 00:24:14,210 --> 00:24:12,240 very clear so I turned and I look and I 630 00:24:16,789 --> 00:24:14,220 don't see anything and I said I said are 631 00:24:18,890 --> 00:24:16,799 you expecting company and he said his 632 00:24:20,810 --> 00:24:18,900 eyes got big I mean this guy's a cool 633 00:24:22,909 --> 00:24:20,820 he's a smooth he's cool he's got a cool 634 00:24:25,070 --> 00:24:22,919 cat he's not going to get rattled his 635 00:24:27,230 --> 00:24:25,080 eyes got big he says no 636 00:24:29,149 --> 00:24:27,240 I go whoa has that ever happened before 637 00:24:31,909 --> 00:24:29,159 where you've heard of something knock on 638 00:24:33,289 --> 00:24:31,919 your window and he said no 639 00:24:34,909 --> 00:24:33,299 and you can just tell he's trying to 640 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:34,919 think about what the hell just happened 641 00:24:40,610 --> 00:24:38,880 and and then he says I said okay well we 642 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:40,620 just kept talking we just said all right 643 00:24:44,690 --> 00:24:42,480 blew it off you know no big deal then a 644 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,700 few minutes later Rap Attack again on 645 00:24:49,010 --> 00:24:46,799 the window and this time he jumps up out 646 00:24:51,649 --> 00:24:49,020 of his chair he's got his rifle he's got 647 00:24:53,690 --> 00:24:51,659 his massive flashlight and he's and he's 648 00:24:55,669 --> 00:24:53,700 heading for the front door and so I'm 649 00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,679 like oh [\h__\h] okay I'm following this guy 650 00:24:59,510 --> 00:24:57,120 out there I want to see I mean what the 651 00:25:02,330 --> 00:24:59,520 hell's going on so so we walk out there 652 00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:02,340 and you know we don't see anything uh 653 00:25:05,810 --> 00:25:03,780 off in the forest over there to the 654 00:25:08,690 --> 00:25:05,820 right we see some high shine and my 655 00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:08,700 first thought in my mind was oh Jesus 656 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:10,260 wouldn't that be amazing if that's a 657 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,240 freaking Bigfoot right there and then 658 00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:14,640 and then and he puts the flashlight on 659 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,280 it and it's a deer deer pops up and it's 660 00:25:21,890 --> 00:25:19,440 a deer so but it wasn't a deer knocking 661 00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:21,900 on his window I can assure you that so I 662 00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,980 don't know what happened dude but 663 00:25:25,730 --> 00:25:24,480 there's some high strangeness I can tell 664 00:25:29,149 --> 00:25:25,740 you that much 665 00:25:31,430 --> 00:25:29,159 yeah I've had experiences 666 00:25:35,149 --> 00:25:31,440 um that it in my mind it is something 667 00:25:37,310 --> 00:25:35,159 there is something that does exist in 668 00:25:39,289 --> 00:25:37,320 the forest at least of the United States 669 00:25:42,950 --> 00:25:39,299 that's the only place that I've had 670 00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:42,960 these experiences but um I I have had 671 00:25:48,110 --> 00:25:45,360 experiences I've taken others to areas 672 00:25:50,269 --> 00:25:48,120 that uh I've been looking for something 673 00:25:52,070 --> 00:25:50,279 and was told something had recently been 674 00:25:54,590 --> 00:25:52,080 cited and with other researchers come 675 00:25:55,450 --> 00:25:54,600 across things that are difficult to 676 00:25:58,789 --> 00:25:55,460 explain 677 00:26:01,990 --> 00:25:58,799 and one of them was up in an area known 678 00:26:04,010 --> 00:26:02,000 as Skull Creek near the uina mountains 679 00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:04,020 Northeastern Utah 680 00:26:08,750 --> 00:26:06,240 there some reports had come in one was 681 00:26:10,970 --> 00:26:08,760 actually of a judge that worked in a 682 00:26:13,730 --> 00:26:10,980 nearby town and was driving home 683 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:13,740 and very credible individual and they 684 00:26:19,850 --> 00:26:17,520 came across a Sasquatch like creature in 685 00:26:22,430 --> 00:26:19,860 the road actually stopped their vehicle 686 00:26:24,230 --> 00:26:22,440 and had a good look at it before it went 687 00:26:26,029 --> 00:26:24,240 back into the forest 688 00:26:28,970 --> 00:26:26,039 and 689 00:26:31,549 --> 00:26:28,980 a another researcher came in from out of 690 00:26:33,769 --> 00:26:31,559 town he was from another state and we 691 00:26:37,010 --> 00:26:33,779 went up to this area which is near where 692 00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:37,020 I used to be a fishing guide and so I 693 00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:38,640 knew the area very well and I knew 694 00:26:43,310 --> 00:26:40,620 exactly where this report that came 695 00:26:47,210 --> 00:26:43,320 through uh where where it was located 696 00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:47,220 and we basically tried to distinguish 697 00:26:52,610 --> 00:26:49,980 exactly where it took place and walked 698 00:26:56,210 --> 00:26:52,620 exactly where this uh creature 699 00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,220 supposedly retreated into the forest 700 00:27:02,930 --> 00:26:59,279 did the whole wood knock thing did the 701 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,940 calls and I'll tell you what we we 702 00:27:07,490 --> 00:27:05,279 encountered something that is almost 703 00:27:09,350 --> 00:27:07,500 impossible to um 704 00:27:10,130 --> 00:27:09,360 to explain you know 705 00:27:13,669 --> 00:27:10,140 um 706 00:27:15,830 --> 00:27:13,679 and I I don't know exactly how to accept 707 00:27:19,850 --> 00:27:15,840 that you know in a rational state of 708 00:27:21,890 --> 00:27:19,860 mind but it definitely happened it um 709 00:27:24,289 --> 00:27:21,900 it definitely happened I don't I just 710 00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:24,299 don't know what happened but something 711 00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:27,720 definitely happened and he agrees 712 00:27:31,610 --> 00:27:29,580 something happened he recently came out 713 00:27:33,769 --> 00:27:31,620 with a YouTube video about the event 714 00:27:36,529 --> 00:27:33,779 which was pretty good I'll have to share 715 00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:36,539 it uh with you but something um without 716 00:27:38,090 --> 00:27:37,440 going 717 00:27:40,250 --> 00:27:38,100 um 718 00:27:43,070 --> 00:27:40,260 too much into that something I wanted to 719 00:27:45,529 --> 00:27:43,080 ask you about Eric which is slightly 720 00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:45,539 crypto related but another tangent 721 00:27:51,590 --> 00:27:48,779 altogether really is the subject of 722 00:27:52,789 --> 00:27:51,600 reptilian humanoids this is something 723 00:27:55,490 --> 00:27:52,799 I've been 724 00:27:57,289 --> 00:27:55,500 delving a bit deeper into recently since 725 00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,299 the passing of the queen and the wild 726 00:28:02,870 --> 00:27:59,760 Tales of reptilian Bloodlines permeating 727 00:28:06,529 --> 00:28:02,880 the conspiracy circles in your opinion 728 00:28:08,990 --> 00:28:06,539 is The Reptilian lizard ideology what 729 00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:09,000 I've always believed that lizards are 730 00:28:13,549 --> 00:28:11,100 just a good term for our world's Elite 731 00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:13,559 captains of industry or extremely 732 00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:15,900 powerful people who seem to be more 733 00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:18,240 connected to the scientifically proven 734 00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:21,059 lizard brain or Reptilian Brain 735 00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:23,640 or the area that functions primarily for 736 00:28:27,409 --> 00:28:25,799 survival and seems a bit more cold and 737 00:28:29,210 --> 00:28:27,419 calculating than the majority of the 738 00:28:31,970 --> 00:28:29,220 population that's what I've always 739 00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:31,980 concluded the extent of talking lizards 740 00:28:37,850 --> 00:28:35,400 or reptilians was comprised of are 741 00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:37,860 lizard people just that or is there more 742 00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:40,080 to the conspiracy of lizards or 743 00:28:44,930 --> 00:28:42,000 reptilians Among Us any information 744 00:28:48,350 --> 00:28:44,940 you've come across in your travels 745 00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:48,360 but yeah Jesus could talk a lot about 746 00:28:52,549 --> 00:28:50,400 this too uh what I did do when you 747 00:28:54,169 --> 00:28:52,559 mentioned before we talked today uh that 748 00:28:56,529 --> 00:28:54,179 you wanted to talk about this 749 00:28:59,330 --> 00:28:56,539 just for the heck of it I did a Google 750 00:29:02,029 --> 00:28:59,340 reptilians in Utah 751 00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:02,039 and uh I just this little short little 752 00:29:09,789 --> 00:29:04,140 super short clip I just want to play 753 00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:15,950 attacks on Earth 754 00:29:21,350 --> 00:29:18,769 the war of varieties grow even more 755 00:29:24,049 --> 00:29:21,360 bizarre at one point he writes to a 756 00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:24,059 friend about reptilia and lizard people 757 00:29:35,930 --> 00:29:33,230 ly into the human brain so they can walk 758 00:29:38,090 --> 00:29:35,940 among us and appear 759 00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:38,100 so what if that was kind of cool so that 760 00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:39,240 was one of the little Clips I thought 761 00:29:44,510 --> 00:29:41,820 I'd make to uh to get this subject 762 00:29:46,610 --> 00:29:44,520 rolling uh let's see let's start I'll 763 00:29:48,529 --> 00:29:46,620 start back I was about five years ago I 764 00:29:49,850 --> 00:29:48,539 was at this conference in Arizona and 765 00:29:51,649 --> 00:29:49,860 there was some people's I didn't know 766 00:29:53,330 --> 00:29:51,659 many of the speakers except a few of the 767 00:29:56,570 --> 00:29:53,340 people that were Tom Dongo was there 768 00:29:58,610 --> 00:29:56,580 Suzanne Ross John Polk 769 00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:58,620 um and this lately I've never heard of 770 00:30:01,130 --> 00:30:00,419 she gets up there and she's doing her 771 00:30:04,190 --> 00:30:01,140 talk 772 00:30:06,350 --> 00:30:04,200 and she starts and you know again I I 773 00:30:08,690 --> 00:30:06,360 some of these things you can't bear fire 774 00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:08,700 bet or even research really just it's a 775 00:30:12,830 --> 00:30:10,380 story but you know you try to figure out 776 00:30:14,210 --> 00:30:12,840 if this person's lack of do or if 777 00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:14,220 they're or if they're really have these 778 00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:15,779 experiences that's the hard part of the 779 00:30:19,730 --> 00:30:17,880 research is trying to determine you know 780 00:30:21,470 --> 00:30:19,740 it's just Story coming out because these 781 00:30:23,450 --> 00:30:21,480 people want attention they got a book or 782 00:30:25,070 --> 00:30:23,460 they want to they want to gain some fame 783 00:30:28,669 --> 00:30:25,080 or do they really have this experience 784 00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:28,679 so anyway this lady said that uh there 785 00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,320 was a time where for whatever reason she 786 00:30:36,049 --> 00:30:33,840 was a psychic or she she had some sort 787 00:30:39,230 --> 00:30:36,059 of a abilities that were Beyond normal 788 00:30:44,029 --> 00:30:39,240 let's just say and that uh 789 00:30:47,990 --> 00:30:44,039 she had been invited to meet the queen 790 00:30:51,049 --> 00:30:48,000 Elizabeth who just recently died and she 791 00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:51,059 said uh and very with a very serious 792 00:30:55,250 --> 00:30:52,799 tone 793 00:30:57,370 --> 00:30:55,260 and again if she was acting she was good 794 00:30:59,510 --> 00:30:57,380 she was beyond good she was an academy 795 00:31:02,450 --> 00:30:59,520 award-winning actor if she was acting 796 00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:02,460 she said that she was having a 797 00:31:06,049 --> 00:31:04,320 conversation with the queen 798 00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:06,059 I forget the details of the 799 00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:07,440 conversations 800 00:31:12,289 --> 00:31:10,260 she said that at a point during the 801 00:31:14,450 --> 00:31:12,299 conversation that the queen Shake 802 00:31:16,190 --> 00:31:14,460 shifted into a reptilia and we've all 803 00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:16,200 we've heard these stories before but 804 00:31:19,730 --> 00:31:17,640 this is the first time I'd ever met 805 00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:19,740 anybody that claimed to actually have 806 00:31:24,049 --> 00:31:21,419 seen it happen 807 00:31:26,990 --> 00:31:24,059 right in front of her eyes so uh that 808 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:27,000 later that lady uh she's not really a 809 00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:29,760 public real public I mean uh I'm 810 00:31:33,169 --> 00:31:31,320 thinking with the stories that she told 811 00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:33,179 in her presentation she could have 812 00:31:38,330 --> 00:31:35,820 probably become kind of a famous speaker 813 00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:38,340 or somebody that would have been sought 814 00:31:42,529 --> 00:31:40,740 after on the circuit for you know talks 815 00:31:43,850 --> 00:31:42,539 and things but she just wasn't one of 816 00:31:46,190 --> 00:31:43,860 those kind of people that wanted a lot 817 00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,200 of attention and to me when when you got 818 00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:48,480 somebody like that that tends to lean 819 00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:49,740 towards a little more of a credible 820 00:31:53,210 --> 00:31:51,240 story 821 00:31:56,210 --> 00:31:53,220 um but she later somebody I guess had 822 00:31:59,029 --> 00:31:56,220 heard the presentation contacted her 823 00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:59,039 and one of the Hollywood agents uh who's 824 00:32:03,889 --> 00:32:00,720 making who made a movie it's I forget 825 00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:03,899 the name of the film but uh let's see uh 826 00:32:09,289 --> 00:32:07,440 geraldino Roscoe I think Melinda Leslie 827 00:32:12,010 --> 00:32:09,299 several other people that I think you're 828 00:32:14,750 --> 00:32:12,020 familiar with and her were in this film 829 00:32:17,450 --> 00:32:14,760 and she talked more in depth about the 830 00:32:19,070 --> 00:32:17,460 reptilians and things of that nature 831 00:32:20,570 --> 00:32:19,080 um and then prior to that so that story 832 00:32:22,549 --> 00:32:20,580 I think about that story that story 833 00:32:24,889 --> 00:32:22,559 triggered my interest into looking more 834 00:32:27,049 --> 00:32:24,899 into The Reptilian story and then of 835 00:32:28,970 --> 00:32:27,059 course you know David Ike uh kind of 836 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:28,980 probably made this the whole idea of 837 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:31,260 reptilian humanoids uh controlling the 838 00:32:36,710 --> 00:32:34,799 world uh famous and a lot of people may 839 00:32:39,889 --> 00:32:36,720 or may not know this but the reason he 840 00:32:41,570 --> 00:32:39,899 even decided to dive into that topic 841 00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:41,580 because we're talking like over 30 years 842 00:32:47,149 --> 00:32:44,700 ago uh was because he had learned about 843 00:32:48,289 --> 00:32:47,159 uh the South I believe it was South 844 00:32:53,590 --> 00:32:48,299 African 845 00:33:00,610 --> 00:32:53,600 Credo 846 00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:00,620 uh I found a video First on YouTube 847 00:33:07,370 --> 00:33:03,720 where date where David Ike had gone to 848 00:33:09,529 --> 00:33:07,380 Africa and interviewed Credo mootwa and 849 00:33:12,110 --> 00:33:09,539 it was broken down into two parts but 850 00:33:13,789 --> 00:33:12,120 the total was about seven hours that he 851 00:33:15,230 --> 00:33:13,799 interviewed you could still find these 852 00:33:18,769 --> 00:33:15,240 interviews I believe on the on the 853 00:33:20,330 --> 00:33:18,779 YouTube but Credo talked about uh in 854 00:33:22,370 --> 00:33:20,340 their in their like the Indians have 855 00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:22,380 their folklore about you know Bigfoot 856 00:33:26,029 --> 00:33:24,600 for example and their history and some 857 00:33:28,190 --> 00:33:26,039 of the Indians believe that there was a 858 00:33:30,470 --> 00:33:28,200 race of beings that came before the last 859 00:33:32,930 --> 00:33:30,480 uh Armageddon and took them underground 860 00:33:34,789 --> 00:33:32,940 into the tunnels and kind of Saved their 861 00:33:36,950 --> 00:33:34,799 race to a degree and then they 862 00:33:38,930 --> 00:33:36,960 re-emerged after the Armageddon I'm just 863 00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:38,940 kind of paraphrasing that story but but 864 00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:41,279 in the African culture it's believed 865 00:33:46,130 --> 00:33:43,980 that these racist beings came from space 866 00:33:47,690 --> 00:33:46,140 uh and I think in the in the talk 867 00:33:49,730 --> 00:33:47,700 there's a lot more detail I'm just going 868 00:33:53,029 --> 00:33:49,740 to paraphrase this but that they came 869 00:33:54,830 --> 00:33:53,039 down to earth and um there are a variety 870 00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,840 of creatures he says there's a variety 871 00:33:58,909 --> 00:33:56,640 of reptilian creatures they're not just 872 00:34:00,529 --> 00:33:58,919 one type like the lizard people that you 873 00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,539 know we we hear about that looks human 874 00:34:05,509 --> 00:34:02,880 or so on and he said that they came down 875 00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:05,519 uh they they lived in the oceans they 876 00:34:10,190 --> 00:34:07,500 lived near the waters 877 00:34:12,470 --> 00:34:10,200 and he describes you know and he's even 878 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,480 got this massive necklace around his 879 00:34:18,169 --> 00:34:14,399 that was later stolen from him that has 880 00:34:20,030 --> 00:34:18,179 the uh the images of these preachers 881 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:20,040 um kind of like a voodoo necklace of 882 00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:22,200 some sort well as he's telling you 883 00:34:27,169 --> 00:34:24,599 stories he's got these different uh 884 00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:27,179 reptilian type creatures the variety all 885 00:34:31,490 --> 00:34:29,220 around on this necklace huge necklace 886 00:34:32,990 --> 00:34:31,500 but I mean these little creatures were 887 00:34:35,089 --> 00:34:33,000 probably like the size of a baseball 888 00:34:37,250 --> 00:34:35,099 that were just kind of hanging on a rope 889 00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:37,260 around his neck and and if he would talk 890 00:34:41,210 --> 00:34:39,300 about each different type of Ripta and 891 00:34:43,310 --> 00:34:41,220 he would kind of hold that uh that 892 00:34:45,530 --> 00:34:43,320 creature in his hand while the necklace 893 00:34:48,109 --> 00:34:45,540 is hanging from his neck and tell these 894 00:34:50,030 --> 00:34:48,119 stories so so I thought wow I mean you 895 00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:50,040 know I tend to trust these ancient 896 00:34:55,909 --> 00:34:54,179 Shaman uh Indian or African people that 897 00:34:58,430 --> 00:34:55,919 that have their history that's been 898 00:35:00,950 --> 00:34:58,440 passed down orally I tend to test their 899 00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:00,960 stories more than uh some guy that might 900 00:35:04,490 --> 00:35:03,000 get on a TV show that's done a lot of 901 00:35:06,470 --> 00:35:04,500 research and then suddenly he's an 902 00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:06,480 expert on reptilians or or same thing 903 00:35:10,130 --> 00:35:08,460 applies to Bigfoot it's like if you can 904 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:10,140 get the story straight from the in the 905 00:35:15,410 --> 00:35:13,380 millions or from the natives and you you 906 00:35:17,690 --> 00:35:15,420 can I personally tend to believe those 907 00:35:19,370 --> 00:35:17,700 stories a lot more than some guy that's 908 00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:19,380 just out there researching and just put 909 00:35:23,210 --> 00:35:21,240 all the puzzle pieces together and 910 00:35:26,990 --> 00:35:23,220 thinks he's got it all figured out 911 00:35:30,589 --> 00:35:27,000 yeah I agree there does seem to be a lot 912 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:30,599 of different theories and as you said a 913 00:35:36,310 --> 00:35:33,839 lot of throughout human history there 914 00:35:39,050 --> 00:35:36,320 seemed to be a lot of pervasive 915 00:35:41,870 --> 00:35:39,060 reptilians at least in the presence of 916 00:35:44,510 --> 00:35:41,880 petroglyphs other other things written 917 00:35:46,190 --> 00:35:44,520 down and of course oral history at the 918 00:35:48,349 --> 00:35:46,200 very least they've been represented 919 00:35:51,589 --> 00:35:48,359 throughout human history in some 920 00:35:55,069 --> 00:35:51,599 reptilian form and whether it's I mean 921 00:35:59,390 --> 00:35:55,079 gosh you have the Egyptian snake man you 922 00:36:01,849 --> 00:35:59,400 have Quetzalcoatl the Mayans Anki uh 923 00:36:04,430 --> 00:36:01,859 with ancient Sumerian literature they 924 00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:04,440 seem omnipresent you know in in our 925 00:36:11,870 --> 00:36:08,160 history and it's it's interesting that 926 00:36:14,329 --> 00:36:11,880 in our time we we tend to avoid this or 927 00:36:16,609 --> 00:36:14,339 we don't look at The Reptilian alien 928 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:16,619 possible origin of the human species 929 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:19,500 something that's been brought up in 930 00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:22,320 various texts a recent book that I read 931 00:36:28,550 --> 00:36:25,320 it was by Scott Allen Roberts I believe 932 00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:28,560 it's just called the reptilians it goes 933 00:36:31,430 --> 00:36:29,760 into the secret history of the 934 00:36:33,470 --> 00:36:31,440 reptilians and 935 00:36:37,010 --> 00:36:33,480 it really makes you wonder if if there 936 00:36:39,290 --> 00:36:37,020 is something to these Bloodlines did the 937 00:36:42,829 --> 00:36:39,300 Nephilim leave this off at some point 938 00:36:45,589 --> 00:36:42,839 and and is it all conspiracy or is there 939 00:36:47,810 --> 00:36:45,599 like a real aspect to it I remember 940 00:36:51,530 --> 00:36:47,820 hearing a story from someone I trust 941 00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:51,540 very much about a political figure in 942 00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:54,720 Utah of all places and this is somebody 943 00:37:00,890 --> 00:36:57,720 who is not very professional actually 944 00:37:03,410 --> 00:37:00,900 also held a political post my girlfriend 945 00:37:06,349 --> 00:37:03,420 at the time I'd been to this person's 946 00:37:09,650 --> 00:37:06,359 home and he was the real deal and and he 947 00:37:12,109 --> 00:37:09,660 had a very strange story about what he 948 00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:12,119 considered this person changing a bit or 949 00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:15,119 getting flustered and uh sort of 950 00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:18,060 exposing some traits that could be could 951 00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:20,820 be called reptilian-ish you know kind of 952 00:37:25,970 --> 00:37:24,240 scaly and um had to excuse himself and 953 00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:25,980 go to the restroom so I don't know is it 954 00:37:30,770 --> 00:37:28,920 is it is it just Hallucination is it the 955 00:37:33,050 --> 00:37:30,780 real deal it's it's hard to tell like 956 00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:33,060 you said impossible to prove 957 00:37:38,329 --> 00:37:36,180 well I'm interesting so so I knew again 958 00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,339 I thought well I'm just going to ask 959 00:37:42,829 --> 00:37:40,320 Rick Doty I'll send him a message here 960 00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:42,839 before the show I said and this is a 961 00:37:48,109 --> 00:37:45,240 quote the term reptilians ever come up 962 00:37:51,410 --> 00:37:48,119 in classified conversations 963 00:37:54,290 --> 00:37:51,420 and his answer was yes 964 00:37:56,089 --> 00:37:54,300 so I mean he Rick Doty never talks about 965 00:37:58,130 --> 00:37:56,099 reptilians that's just not part of he 966 00:38:00,650 --> 00:37:58,140 talks about his experiences and his and 967 00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:00,660 what he he says that he experienced so 968 00:38:04,730 --> 00:38:02,700 he talks about what he has knowledge of 969 00:38:06,890 --> 00:38:04,740 he usually doesn't he doesn't go outside 970 00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:06,900 the box and speculate about things but I 971 00:38:10,790 --> 00:38:08,880 thought that was interesting I'll tell 972 00:38:13,550 --> 00:38:10,800 you another reptilian story that was 973 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,560 actually uh we've got a friend you might 974 00:38:17,150 --> 00:38:15,359 have met him before John Polk the 975 00:38:19,550 --> 00:38:17,160 Reverend John Polk lives in Sedona I 976 00:38:21,770 --> 00:38:19,560 used to live in uh in uh 977 00:38:23,870 --> 00:38:21,780 Orlando Florida but moved to Sedona a 978 00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:23,880 few years ago and he and when I first 979 00:38:28,010 --> 00:38:26,820 met him he told me this he was the guy 980 00:38:31,370 --> 00:38:28,020 that told me that I was going to start 981 00:38:32,690 --> 00:38:31,380 seeing UFOs and I laughed I told this 982 00:38:34,370 --> 00:38:32,700 story before I don't know if I told it 983 00:38:35,690 --> 00:38:34,380 to you and I kind of laughed because I 984 00:38:37,550 --> 00:38:35,700 just met the guy and I'm thinking man 985 00:38:39,470 --> 00:38:37,560 this guy's into this stuff he wrote this 986 00:38:41,270 --> 00:38:39,480 book called Yahweh the biblical God is 987 00:38:43,130 --> 00:38:41,280 an alien and I and I had to know what he 988 00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:43,140 meant by that that's really what started 989 00:38:46,370 --> 00:38:45,000 the conversation but anyway as I'm 990 00:38:49,069 --> 00:38:46,380 getting to know the guy and talk to him 991 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:49,079 he's telling me that the that he gets 992 00:38:53,690 --> 00:38:51,060 abducted by the reptilians is what he 993 00:38:55,670 --> 00:38:53,700 said and I think if you know I didn't 994 00:38:58,130 --> 00:38:55,680 know the guy well enough to even really 995 00:39:00,470 --> 00:38:58,140 pass any kind of a decision or judgment 996 00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:00,480 on what he was saying so I just kind of 997 00:39:05,270 --> 00:39:02,880 put it in my mind and left it there and 998 00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:05,280 uh every now and then he didn't talk 999 00:39:10,609 --> 00:39:07,740 about it hardly ever but every now and 1000 00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:10,619 then he would call me uh maybe this has 1001 00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:12,119 been I would say at least two or three 1002 00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:14,880 times since that initial conversation I 1003 00:39:19,250 --> 00:39:15,960 mean we've talked a lot but he would 1004 00:39:21,650 --> 00:39:19,260 call me and he said he said dude uh I 1005 00:39:23,150 --> 00:39:21,660 was I was abducted last night and I said 1006 00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,160 oh really 1007 00:39:26,450 --> 00:39:24,960 and he goes yeah I go well how do you 1008 00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:26,460 know he goes because there was there's 1009 00:39:31,910 --> 00:39:29,400 blood in my bed he goes they they do 1010 00:39:33,710 --> 00:39:31,920 something to him he claims similar to 1011 00:39:35,810 --> 00:39:33,720 what they did to I guess the Whitby 1012 00:39:37,790 --> 00:39:35,820 Streeter or Schreiber where they you 1013 00:39:39,890 --> 00:39:37,800 know they penetrate the anal area for 1014 00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,900 and so he has a theory about why they do 1015 00:39:43,730 --> 00:39:42,000 that there's they're not just doing it 1016 00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:43,740 because they're you know sexual perverse 1017 00:39:48,710 --> 00:39:46,500 is something uh deep inside that area 1018 00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:48,720 that they're able to connect to uh John 1019 00:39:52,550 --> 00:39:50,820 Paul he'd be a good interview by the way 1020 00:39:55,849 --> 00:39:52,560 I'd recommend you have him on your show 1021 00:39:58,550 --> 00:39:55,859 but anyway to cut to the point um 1022 00:40:00,109 --> 00:39:58,560 so he told me about this and so again I 1023 00:40:01,550 --> 00:40:00,119 just kind of just followed it away in my 1024 00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:01,560 memory and just left it there because 1025 00:40:04,609 --> 00:40:03,180 it's like this is kind of heavy I've got 1026 00:40:07,069 --> 00:40:04,619 a friend that says he's getting uh 1027 00:40:08,750 --> 00:40:07,079 abducted by reptilians 1028 00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:08,760 um you know I was kind of wondering how 1029 00:40:13,010 --> 00:40:10,619 how much of a friend do I want to be 1030 00:40:15,230 --> 00:40:13,020 with this guy because it's like if this 1031 00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:15,240 is true I mean maybe these I don't want 1032 00:40:19,010 --> 00:40:16,859 these creatures or whatever they are you 1033 00:40:20,630 --> 00:40:19,020 know messing with me you know I don't I 1034 00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:20,640 didn't know but you know you get 1035 00:40:24,230 --> 00:40:22,260 cautious when you hear stories like this 1036 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:24,240 and they're coming from your friends so 1037 00:40:28,910 --> 00:40:26,460 one time uh this was about four years 1038 00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,920 ago there was a conference in in Sedona 1039 00:40:33,109 --> 00:40:31,200 and James Gillian the owner of you said 1040 00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:33,119 he Ranch uh was the was one of the 1041 00:40:38,210 --> 00:40:35,520 speakers and uh 1042 00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:38,220 so I picked him up I was John Polk was 1043 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:39,359 supposed to pick him up at the airport 1044 00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:42,000 but he ended up having to be like the MC 1045 00:40:46,190 --> 00:40:44,220 slash host of the conference because the 1046 00:40:47,990 --> 00:40:46,200 other guy that was going to do it had to 1047 00:40:51,470 --> 00:40:48,000 back out at the last minute so anyway so 1048 00:40:53,390 --> 00:40:51,480 I I went up and picked up Gillian and uh 1049 00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:53,400 and brought him back to the house and so 1050 00:40:57,410 --> 00:40:55,260 John had a really big house there in 1051 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:57,420 Sedona uh not too far from Thunder 1052 00:41:04,490 --> 00:41:00,960 Mountain and it was myself uh John Polk 1053 00:41:06,890 --> 00:41:04,500 Brad Olson and and uh and uh James 1054 00:41:08,450 --> 00:41:06,900 Gillian were all staying in this house 1055 00:41:10,250 --> 00:41:08,460 and that was kind of an interesting 1056 00:41:11,690 --> 00:41:10,260 combination of personalities just 1057 00:41:14,390 --> 00:41:11,700 hanging out in this house for the 1058 00:41:17,390 --> 00:41:14,400 weekend so one night uh 1059 00:41:19,790 --> 00:41:17,400 you know I'm in bed I'm sleeping 1060 00:41:22,910 --> 00:41:19,800 John's room was across the hallway from 1061 00:41:24,530 --> 00:41:22,920 where I was and uh it's three o'clock in 1062 00:41:25,730 --> 00:41:24,540 the morning and now I obviously I'm 1063 00:41:27,230 --> 00:41:25,740 sleeping I didn't know it was three 1064 00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:27,240 o'clock but but I'm going to tell you 1065 00:41:31,130 --> 00:41:28,800 why I knew it was three o'clock 1066 00:41:33,430 --> 00:41:31,140 so I'm I'm having I'm having a dream now 1067 00:41:36,230 --> 00:41:33,440 I know myself personally when I dream 1068 00:41:38,510 --> 00:41:36,240 very very seldom are my dreams real 1069 00:41:39,650 --> 00:41:38,520 Vivid a matter of fact typically when I 1070 00:41:41,990 --> 00:41:39,660 have a dream 1071 00:41:43,310 --> 00:41:42,000 I don't even really when I wake up I 1072 00:41:45,890 --> 00:41:43,320 don't remember the dream I might 1073 00:41:47,569 --> 00:41:45,900 remember it for like a moment or two but 1074 00:41:48,890 --> 00:41:47,579 I don't really put much thought into it 1075 00:41:50,270 --> 00:41:48,900 so I just kind of Let It Go and then I 1076 00:41:51,530 --> 00:41:50,280 forget the dream I just completely 1077 00:41:53,150 --> 00:41:51,540 forget it 1078 00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:53,160 um I think green journaling is cool some 1079 00:41:56,510 --> 00:41:54,900 people do that I should probably have 1080 00:41:59,050 --> 00:41:56,520 done that but anyway but I'll never 1081 00:42:01,670 --> 00:41:59,060 forget this stream this particular dream 1082 00:42:04,490 --> 00:42:01,680 is the most memorable dream I ever had 1083 00:42:07,490 --> 00:42:04,500 so I'm laying in my bed in this stream 1084 00:42:09,470 --> 00:42:07,500 and all of a sudden I feel in my dream 1085 00:42:12,109 --> 00:42:09,480 that there's something pulling me out of 1086 00:42:15,290 --> 00:42:12,119 the bed towards the ceiling and my I 1087 00:42:17,930 --> 00:42:15,300 feel my my hands and my arms going up I 1088 00:42:19,390 --> 00:42:17,940 feel my my legs and that are flat on the 1089 00:42:21,770 --> 00:42:19,400 bed now they're going straight up 1090 00:42:23,690 --> 00:42:21,780 towards the ceiling and my body's 1091 00:42:26,810 --> 00:42:23,700 starting to come off the bed 1092 00:42:29,030 --> 00:42:26,820 and then in my dream I start kind of 1093 00:42:31,310 --> 00:42:29,040 moving my arms around my legs like I'm 1094 00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:31,320 kicking and fighting and I'm yelling in 1095 00:42:36,349 --> 00:42:33,300 my dream no no 1096 00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:36,359 and then be I assume because I was 1097 00:42:41,329 --> 00:42:39,000 yelling in my dream which I never do and 1098 00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:41,339 I never have these kind of dreams that 1099 00:42:45,650 --> 00:42:44,339 that I woke up Suddenly I wake up I'm 1100 00:42:47,089 --> 00:42:45,660 laying in the bed 1101 00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:47,099 and I'm awake 1102 00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:50,480 and and I'm and I was literally 1103 00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:52,440 freaked out 1104 00:42:57,589 --> 00:42:55,380 I was I thought what the hell kind of 1105 00:42:59,870 --> 00:42:57,599 dream was that what just happened three 1106 00:43:02,030 --> 00:42:59,880 o'clock in the morning and I was trying 1107 00:43:05,089 --> 00:43:02,040 to figure out what that dream was about 1108 00:43:07,130 --> 00:43:05,099 and I could not go back to sleep I I 1109 00:43:09,950 --> 00:43:07,140 literally just laid there in bed I was 1110 00:43:12,589 --> 00:43:09,960 truthfully I was afraid to go back to 1111 00:43:15,290 --> 00:43:12,599 sleep I thought I had thought in my mind 1112 00:43:17,809 --> 00:43:15,300 if I go back to sleep what if this dream 1113 00:43:20,809 --> 00:43:17,819 kicks back in and whatever was happening 1114 00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:20,819 I was just I was afraid and so I waited 1115 00:43:24,109 --> 00:43:22,380 and I didn't go back to sleep it was 1116 00:43:26,690 --> 00:43:24,119 about six o'clock in the morning 1117 00:43:28,430 --> 00:43:26,700 the sun's starting to come up 1118 00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:28,440 and I didn't want to get up before then 1119 00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:30,000 and start walking around because I 1120 00:43:32,870 --> 00:43:31,380 didn't want to wake anybody up but then 1121 00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:32,880 I said okay I'm going to get up I'm 1122 00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:34,380 going to walk out my bedroom door here 1123 00:43:37,010 --> 00:43:35,700 and go into the hallway and down into 1124 00:43:39,890 --> 00:43:37,020 the kitchen and get some water or 1125 00:43:42,589 --> 00:43:39,900 whatever and so literally the moment I 1126 00:43:44,930 --> 00:43:42,599 opened the door in my bedroom to walk in 1127 00:43:47,089 --> 00:43:44,940 the hallway here's John Polk across the 1128 00:43:49,930 --> 00:43:47,099 hallway in his room opening the door and 1129 00:43:52,550 --> 00:43:49,940 walking out exactly at the same moment 1130 00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:52,560 I said I said John 1131 00:43:59,930 --> 00:43:57,180 I see I said uh man I just had I had the 1132 00:44:02,089 --> 00:43:59,940 freakiest dream last night and before I 1133 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:02,099 even got to finish or say anything he 1134 00:44:05,809 --> 00:44:03,359 says dude 1135 00:44:10,010 --> 00:44:05,819 I was abducted last night 1136 00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:10,020 and my holy [\h__\h] I mean there was no it 1137 00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,700 was nothing planned there was no I mean 1138 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:12,960 there was no you know what I mean it was 1139 00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:14,640 just weird it just all of a sudden and 1140 00:44:18,109 --> 00:44:16,680 then I I said and then I told him about 1141 00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:18,119 my dream 1142 00:44:22,130 --> 00:44:19,920 and he says well they might have been 1143 00:44:23,750 --> 00:44:22,140 trying to get you too and I thought well 1144 00:44:26,690 --> 00:44:23,760 I don't know 1145 00:44:28,910 --> 00:44:26,700 but but if he is in fact having a 1146 00:44:31,010 --> 00:44:28,920 reptilian abductions 1147 00:44:33,109 --> 00:44:31,020 it's possible they tried to take me I 1148 00:44:34,910 --> 00:44:33,119 know this sounds crazy in Wackadoo but 1149 00:44:38,450 --> 00:44:34,920 that's a God's honest true story right 1150 00:44:40,910 --> 00:44:38,460 there I believe you yeah I mean that 1151 00:44:42,910 --> 00:44:40,920 there's there's a lot I've I've had some 1152 00:44:45,230 --> 00:44:42,920 discussions with people who have claimed 1153 00:44:48,470 --> 00:44:45,240 that they 1154 00:44:51,410 --> 00:44:48,480 have been abducted and there is a book 1155 00:44:54,770 --> 00:44:51,420 called the keepers I met a gentleman 1156 00:44:56,390 --> 00:44:54,780 named Jim Sparks out um believe it or 1157 00:44:59,210 --> 00:44:56,400 not at Roswell 1158 00:45:04,069 --> 00:44:59,220 um we we were out there uh camping out 1159 00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:04,079 over a weekend and he very believable 1160 00:45:09,470 --> 00:45:06,960 very believable had a ton of stories I 1161 00:45:11,690 --> 00:45:09,480 did get his book and he claimed he'd 1162 00:45:15,470 --> 00:45:11,700 been working with intelligent non-human 1163 00:45:17,690 --> 00:45:15,480 beings from off-planet locations and he 1164 00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:17,700 has you know unlike a lot of abductees 1165 00:45:20,990 --> 00:45:19,440 he did have some of what you're 1166 00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:21,000 mentioning these this conscious 1167 00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:25,680 awareness of his experiences and clear 1168 00:45:31,069 --> 00:45:29,119 recall of the technology the 1169 00:45:34,130 --> 00:45:31,079 multi-dimensionality and the 1170 00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:34,140 manipulation of electromagnetic fields 1171 00:45:39,890 --> 00:45:35,460 that these 1172 00:45:41,630 --> 00:45:39,900 entities seem to have and I find it 1173 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:41,640 interesting that just about in every 1174 00:45:47,150 --> 00:45:43,680 culture you know whether it's 1175 00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:47,160 uh India China Sumeria Mexico Japan 1176 00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:50,760 Central America there is this this 1177 00:45:58,030 --> 00:45:53,520 history 1178 00:46:02,089 --> 00:45:58,040 that has this Divine reptilian Heritage 1179 00:46:04,670 --> 00:46:02,099 and interestingly also is that we use 1180 00:46:07,069 --> 00:46:04,680 you know the symbol of the two serpents 1181 00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:07,079 coiled around the staff which was 1182 00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:08,940 originally the tree of knowledge of 1183 00:46:13,849 --> 00:46:11,579 ancient myth and now that's used by the 1184 00:46:17,630 --> 00:46:13,859 American Medical Association as its logo 1185 00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:17,640 which goes right along the same path and 1186 00:46:22,670 --> 00:46:19,380 um it's an interesting subject 1187 00:46:24,829 --> 00:46:22,680 reptilians I mean whether it's David Ike 1188 00:46:28,190 --> 00:46:24,839 talking about them or not the The 1189 00:46:32,089 --> 00:46:28,200 Reptilian Brain is a super reliable 1190 00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:32,099 uh part of our anatomy it's quite 1191 00:46:38,089 --> 00:46:34,020 compulsive but scientists have long been 1192 00:46:40,309 --> 00:46:38,099 aware that The Reptilian Brain we have 1193 00:46:44,569 --> 00:46:40,319 things in common with our hearts as well 1194 00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:44,579 which I only recently found out that um 1195 00:46:49,250 --> 00:46:46,560 it's virtually indistinguishable when 1196 00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:49,260 you have a human embryonic heart with 1197 00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:51,660 that of a reptile and that only later 1198 00:46:57,650 --> 00:46:54,240 does it change the conductive tissue 1199 00:47:01,569 --> 00:46:57,660 which works through electrical impulse 1200 00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:01,579 only changes later and you know 1201 00:47:06,470 --> 00:47:03,839 considering the number of similarities 1202 00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:06,480 that we share with reptiles such as The 1203 00:47:10,609 --> 00:47:08,640 Reptilian Heart The Reptilian Brain and 1204 00:47:13,849 --> 00:47:10,619 our eyes which is another thing that I 1205 00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:13,859 was not aware of but they have a common 1206 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:16,680 molecular structure as well I think that 1207 00:47:21,530 --> 00:47:18,960 there's a strong indication that there 1208 00:47:24,849 --> 00:47:21,540 could be some ancient reptilian 1209 00:47:28,190 --> 00:47:24,859 uh origin to mankind 1210 00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:28,200 yeah I mean uh there's it's there's a 1211 00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:30,119 fact that people have been born with 1212 00:47:34,849 --> 00:47:33,000 tails I mean that's not some CGI 1213 00:47:36,370 --> 00:47:34,859 [\h__\h] story part of the expression 1214 00:47:38,750 --> 00:47:36,380 but I mean 1215 00:47:39,950 --> 00:47:38,760 right I mean I've said people in India 1216 00:47:42,829 --> 00:47:39,960 as a matter of fact I've seen some 1217 00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:42,839 videos of people uh born with tails uh 1218 00:47:49,069 --> 00:47:45,599 people born with webbed feet people born 1219 00:47:52,670 --> 00:47:49,079 with you know webbed hands 1220 00:47:54,950 --> 00:47:52,680 um so I I tend to be able uh not a 1221 00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:54,960 knower of course but a Believer primary 1222 00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:57,839 I would say is a a reasonable believer 1223 00:48:02,750 --> 00:48:00,780 in the idea of the I'll call it the 1224 00:48:04,910 --> 00:48:02,760 hybridization program 1225 00:48:07,730 --> 00:48:04,920 I tend to think if I had if I had to 1226 00:48:10,010 --> 00:48:07,740 come up with one theory that uh that 1227 00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:10,020 makes the most sense to me uh I was 1228 00:48:13,550 --> 00:48:11,339 talking about this the other day that 1229 00:48:15,710 --> 00:48:13,560 let's just say hypothetically uh in this 1230 00:48:19,849 --> 00:48:15,720 conversation there's there's the god 1231 00:48:22,069 --> 00:48:19,859 with the Big G the all Almighty Creator 1232 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:22,079 the whoever it was that created 1233 00:48:27,230 --> 00:48:24,480 everything for example let's just assume 1234 00:48:29,089 --> 00:48:27,240 that that's that God with the big G and 1235 00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:29,099 let's just say that this particular God 1236 00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:32,640 this only this only Creator God created 1237 00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:35,819 many other types of uh of beings we'll 1238 00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,400 say and amongst those and then if you go 1239 00:48:42,109 --> 00:48:40,319 to the Bible they talk about the fallen 1240 00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:42,119 angels and and then some people think 1241 00:48:46,190 --> 00:48:44,040 they're demons matter of fact I'm pretty 1242 00:48:47,690 --> 00:48:46,200 I know through good sources that people 1243 00:48:50,270 --> 00:48:47,700 believe that there's people in the 1244 00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:50,280 Pentagon in the high up in government uh 1245 00:48:53,809 --> 00:48:51,960 intelligence and so on that really 1246 00:48:55,849 --> 00:48:53,819 believe that these creatures are demons 1247 00:48:57,470 --> 00:48:55,859 which they may be I mean you can't 1248 00:49:00,829 --> 00:48:57,480 really argue against them not being 1249 00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:00,839 demons but they but they but it seems to 1250 00:49:05,809 --> 00:49:02,700 me that 1251 00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:05,819 variety of species of sentient type 1252 00:49:09,950 --> 00:49:07,980 beings from whether they were here 1253 00:49:12,109 --> 00:49:09,960 already on Earth or they're living in 1254 00:49:13,910 --> 00:49:12,119 the oceans before humans came to be or 1255 00:49:17,150 --> 00:49:13,920 they're from space or some planet or 1256 00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:17,160 some other dimension that they have uh 1257 00:49:23,750 --> 00:49:20,520 tinkered and altered the DNA or the 1258 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,760 structure of of humans and kind of and 1259 00:49:28,670 --> 00:49:25,920 and change them to a degree where it's 1260 00:49:31,069 --> 00:49:28,680 if you believe that theory then yeah you 1261 00:49:33,650 --> 00:49:31,079 could see where uh there could be hybrid 1262 00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,660 reptilian humans amongst us right now I 1263 00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:35,760 mean it's it's it's not completely 1264 00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:38,160 ridiculous to think that it's it's not 1265 00:49:41,630 --> 00:49:39,540 possible 1266 00:49:42,890 --> 00:49:41,640 um and and then I've also been told 1267 00:49:46,490 --> 00:49:42,900 through 1268 00:49:48,290 --> 00:49:46,500 other sources that I can't prove but uh 1269 00:49:49,550 --> 00:49:48,300 that the government when I when I say 1270 00:49:51,650 --> 00:49:49,560 the government and we're not talking 1271 00:49:53,089 --> 00:49:51,660 about senators and congressmen I 1272 00:49:54,650 --> 00:49:53,099 shouldn't even use you know to use the 1273 00:49:57,050 --> 00:49:54,660 word government is probably not even the 1274 00:49:59,930 --> 00:49:57,060 right word to use it's uh it's uh you 1275 00:50:02,630 --> 00:49:59,940 know what John de Souza calls them Elite 1276 00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:02,640 Powers uh in control or whatever so 1277 00:50:05,990 --> 00:50:04,200 whatever the term whatever you want to 1278 00:50:09,109 --> 00:50:06,000 refer to these people that have the 1279 00:50:11,990 --> 00:50:09,119 ability to build underground bases in 1280 00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:12,000 the ground and do and do experiments you 1281 00:50:16,430 --> 00:50:14,400 know without a sight out of mind 1282 00:50:19,250 --> 00:50:16,440 um that that these as a matter of fact 1283 00:50:21,290 --> 00:50:19,260 there's a story from in the 30s about uh 1284 00:50:23,150 --> 00:50:21,300 these reptilian catacombs that were 1285 00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:23,160 found under the streets of LA at one 1286 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:25,079 point uh that you've probably heard 1287 00:50:28,849 --> 00:50:27,300 about that story but that that that 1288 00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:28,859 they're uh that they're actually 1289 00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:31,920 experimenting and uh illegally you know 1290 00:50:36,170 --> 00:50:34,079 creating you know different types of 1291 00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:36,180 like almost like the island of Dr Moreau 1292 00:50:39,829 --> 00:50:38,040 where they've got all these hybrid type 1293 00:50:42,829 --> 00:50:39,839 creatures and they're experimenting and 1294 00:50:45,290 --> 00:50:42,839 and so I I could see well they would 1295 00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:45,300 that that's possible that humans could 1296 00:50:49,370 --> 00:50:47,280 be doing that but maybe humans that are 1297 00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:49,380 under the influence of possibly 1298 00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:51,660 reptilian humanoids or gray humanoids or 1299 00:50:56,870 --> 00:50:53,940 whatever type of creature that wants to 1300 00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:56,880 create uh and I would call these these 1301 00:51:01,970 --> 00:50:59,520 types of beings uh that were looked upon 1302 00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:01,980 by maybe the people back in the day as 1303 00:51:05,809 --> 00:51:03,900 they thought they were gods 1304 00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:05,819 but they weren't in my opinion they 1305 00:51:10,370 --> 00:51:08,520 weren't be God they just had gods-like 1306 00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,380 powers so the gods with the little G 1307 00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:12,960 that that would have the ability to to 1308 00:51:18,410 --> 00:51:15,960 trans transverse dimensions and appear 1309 00:51:20,809 --> 00:51:18,420 and reappear and had powers that that 1310 00:51:22,910 --> 00:51:20,819 standard modern humans didn't have and 1311 00:51:25,549 --> 00:51:22,920 so I think it's even happening today if 1312 00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:25,559 you look at what they're trying to do uh 1313 00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:27,660 what the theory is what what the shot 1314 00:51:31,730 --> 00:51:29,400 for example that has to do with 1315 00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:31,740 protecting people from covid that you 1316 00:51:37,450 --> 00:51:34,200 put this mRNA and people and you're 1317 00:51:39,710 --> 00:51:37,460 literally uh you know changing People 1318 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,720 technically you're changing in them 1319 00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,280 you're changing their structure as 1320 00:51:45,950 --> 00:51:44,160 humans now they're like uh they're still 1321 00:51:47,390 --> 00:51:45,960 human but they're kind of hybrids in the 1322 00:51:49,130 --> 00:51:47,400 sense that they're operating their 1323 00:51:51,470 --> 00:51:49,140 operating system is going to be now 1324 00:51:53,630 --> 00:51:51,480 different than a person that that hasn't 1325 00:51:55,069 --> 00:51:53,640 got these uh these vaccines or these 1326 00:51:57,470 --> 00:51:55,079 shots so 1327 00:51:59,410 --> 00:51:57,480 um so you know so it's possible that 1328 00:52:02,829 --> 00:51:59,420 it's the history is repeating itself 1329 00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:02,839 male yeah 1330 00:52:08,990 --> 00:52:06,240 and the super soldiers and uh and 1331 00:52:10,849 --> 00:52:09,000 there's a guy named Dr Peter Peter that 1332 00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:10,859 talked about in the 70s they call them 1333 00:52:15,230 --> 00:52:13,680 organic robotoids that the Russians had 1334 00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,240 been experimenting with that organic 1335 00:52:20,270 --> 00:52:18,000 robotoids and and at one point he said 1336 00:52:22,490 --> 00:52:20,280 that Carter went to Russia for some uh 1337 00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:22,500 Jimmy Carter the president for some uh 1338 00:52:27,770 --> 00:52:25,200 meeting and that they had uh you know 1339 00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:27,780 somehow removed his Consciousness and 1340 00:52:31,670 --> 00:52:29,700 and and and he was and then when they 1341 00:52:33,170 --> 00:52:31,680 sent him back to the United States it 1342 00:52:35,329 --> 00:52:33,180 wasn't the real Jimmy Carter it was an 1343 00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:35,339 organic robotoid and then I thought that 1344 00:52:39,349 --> 00:52:37,260 sounds ridiculous but then you go and 1345 00:52:41,809 --> 00:52:39,359 you research the story and you find out 1346 00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:41,819 that uh that Carter was having problems 1347 00:52:46,069 --> 00:52:43,980 after he returned and and then he wasn't 1348 00:52:48,290 --> 00:52:46,079 able to continue on with his presidency 1349 00:52:50,270 --> 00:52:48,300 and he wasn't re-elected so I mean it 1350 00:52:51,470 --> 00:52:50,280 could be all speculation but you know 1351 00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:51,480 it's crazy there's a lot of crazy 1352 00:52:54,230 --> 00:52:52,920 stories out there some of them are 1353 00:52:57,170 --> 00:52:54,240 probably true 1354 00:52:59,089 --> 00:52:57,180 yeah I think when you are talking things 1355 00:53:00,730 --> 00:52:59,099 that have been discussed since the 1356 00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:00,740 beginning of 1357 00:53:07,370 --> 00:53:03,420 humankind I mean 1358 00:53:08,690 --> 00:53:07,380 it the word Dragon uh you know is very 1359 00:53:11,270 --> 00:53:08,700 likely 1360 00:53:14,150 --> 00:53:11,280 comes from the word Dagon which you know 1361 00:53:17,450 --> 00:53:14,160 uh is the spirit behind Christianity 1362 00:53:19,970 --> 00:53:17,460 apparently you know Dagon the dragon in 1363 00:53:22,609 --> 00:53:19,980 the sea or Dagon the fish god 1364 00:53:26,089 --> 00:53:22,619 um called Leviathan in scripture which 1365 00:53:28,609 --> 00:53:26,099 was worshiped by those in Babylon this 1366 00:53:30,650 --> 00:53:28,619 is old I mean this is not you know 1367 00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:30,660 you're not going to see this on TMZ 1368 00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:32,880 we're talking about ancient Middle East 1369 00:53:37,849 --> 00:53:36,000 we're talking about West Semitic Gods I 1370 00:53:41,650 --> 00:53:37,859 mean that people worship these for 1371 00:53:44,930 --> 00:53:41,660 fertility extensively and for uh crops 1372 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:44,940 and this is all 1373 00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:48,720 I mean as early as 2500 BC and that's 1374 00:53:53,809 --> 00:53:51,359 not even going into you know Dagan was 1375 00:53:56,750 --> 00:53:53,819 apparently the second of importance only 1376 00:54:00,109 --> 00:53:56,760 to L which is like the supreme god as 1377 00:54:02,690 --> 00:54:00,119 you mentioned and uh what's interesting 1378 00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:02,700 about L is you know you you kind of 1379 00:54:08,690 --> 00:54:05,520 discussed this theory of are they demons 1380 00:54:10,970 --> 00:54:08,700 or are you know and in the Bible it 1381 00:54:13,490 --> 00:54:10,980 talks about the Elohim which kind of 1382 00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:13,500 says that like many little Gods work 1383 00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:16,800 under the supreme god or in unison and 1384 00:54:20,569 --> 00:54:18,240 the Elohim 1385 00:54:22,609 --> 00:54:20,579 I think one of the most telling and I 1386 00:54:24,170 --> 00:54:22,619 know that my my good friends that are 1387 00:54:25,849 --> 00:54:24,180 extremely religious hate having this 1388 00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:25,859 conversation with me when I bring up the 1389 00:54:32,089 --> 00:54:29,880 Elohim because they say oh L is you know 1390 00:54:34,430 --> 00:54:32,099 e-l that's that's 1391 00:54:36,829 --> 00:54:34,440 not the God we're talking about and I'm 1392 00:54:41,109 --> 00:54:36,839 like really because when you look at 1393 00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:41,119 words like Angel I'll eat like Elites 1394 00:54:49,370 --> 00:54:44,400 all the Angels names seem to have l in 1395 00:54:52,849 --> 00:54:49,380 them e-l uh Elevate all these words come 1396 00:54:57,170 --> 00:54:52,859 from the word L and that supreme god 1397 00:54:59,690 --> 00:54:57,180 that functions as uh possibly over or 1398 00:55:02,630 --> 00:54:59,700 working with in unison these little Gods 1399 00:55:03,770 --> 00:55:02,640 the Elohim and it always brings me back 1400 00:55:06,530 --> 00:55:03,780 to 1401 00:55:10,450 --> 00:55:06,540 uh the 1402 00:55:15,230 --> 00:55:10,460 um crazy crazy skull and bones number 1403 00:55:17,569 --> 00:55:15,240 322 in Genesis because it I think it's 1404 00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:17,579 so telling you know these are the same 1405 00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:20,339 circles or the same people that are 1406 00:55:27,349 --> 00:55:24,000 being called possibly lizard-like and 1407 00:55:30,710 --> 00:55:27,359 that Genesis 3 22 saying is and the Lord 1408 00:55:34,329 --> 00:55:30,720 God said the man has now become like one 1409 00:55:37,430 --> 00:55:34,339 of us us not me as like one of us 1410 00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:37,440 knowing good and evil he must not be 1411 00:55:40,849 --> 00:55:38,940 allowed to reach out his hand and take 1412 00:55:43,849 --> 00:55:40,859 also from the Tree of Life 1413 00:55:46,010 --> 00:55:43,859 and eat and live forever so he does say 1414 00:55:48,829 --> 00:55:46,020 one of us which kind of comes back to 1415 00:55:51,170 --> 00:55:48,839 that Elohim like is there a hierarchy of 1416 00:55:55,250 --> 00:55:51,180 these things I don't know man you know 1417 00:55:58,910 --> 00:55:55,260 the dragon in in in Asian culture the 1418 00:56:01,670 --> 00:55:58,920 Dagon going back way back to Babylon and 1419 00:56:05,630 --> 00:56:01,680 I mean we're talking 2500 years before 1420 00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,640 Christ and it's this is not low-key 1421 00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:07,520 information this stuff has been around 1422 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:10,740 for a long time so when people say oh 1423 00:56:14,950 --> 00:56:13,380 you're talking crazy mentioning anything 1424 00:56:18,049 --> 00:56:14,960 reptilian 1425 00:56:20,930 --> 00:56:18,059 well nevertheless it's been talked about 1426 00:56:26,990 --> 00:56:20,940 since as far back as we have been 1427 00:56:32,809 --> 00:56:30,109 fake news was less likely back in those 1428 00:56:34,849 --> 00:56:32,819 days you know nowadays with the internet 1429 00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:34,859 and everything and everybody a lot of 1430 00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:36,300 people out there are trying to have a 1431 00:56:39,589 --> 00:56:38,160 podcast and YouTube shows are just 1432 00:56:41,390 --> 00:56:39,599 looking for a story that could get you 1433 00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:41,400 know clicks and likes so sometimes 1434 00:56:45,950 --> 00:56:43,380 stories get exaggerated but yeah you can 1435 00:56:48,410 --> 00:56:45,960 never you really can't go wrong if you 1436 00:56:49,790 --> 00:56:48,420 study history I mean that's uh I'll tell 1437 00:56:51,410 --> 00:56:49,800 you another quick story so a friend of 1438 00:56:54,049 --> 00:56:51,420 mine who's working in another country 1439 00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,059 right now who I talk about these things 1440 00:56:58,370 --> 00:56:56,400 with occasionally but he's he's not 1441 00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:58,380 really into it but but it's just like I 1442 00:57:02,030 --> 00:57:00,000 just like to share stories with them and 1443 00:57:03,530 --> 00:57:02,040 so then he asked me questions and he's 1444 00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:03,540 trying to like you know sometimes he'll 1445 00:57:07,370 --> 00:57:05,640 he'll say I'm gonna I'll look into this 1446 00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,380 and he's not really a debunker but he's 1447 00:57:12,349 --> 00:57:09,599 always looking for proof 1448 00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:12,359 um anyway so he said that he was out at 1449 00:57:16,490 --> 00:57:14,700 a restaurant one time recently and uh 1450 00:57:18,650 --> 00:57:16,500 there was a guy there on the American 1451 00:57:19,970 --> 00:57:18,660 that was that was there ending this just 1452 00:57:23,210 --> 00:57:19,980 happened to be having a conversation 1453 00:57:24,230 --> 00:57:23,220 with him and he says yeah this guy's uh 1454 00:57:27,049 --> 00:57:24,240 you know seemed like a really 1455 00:57:29,930 --> 00:57:27,059 intelligent guy former military guy 1456 00:57:31,370 --> 00:57:29,940 uh and he says that yeah he'd move to 1457 00:57:34,970 --> 00:57:31,380 this particular country where my friend 1458 00:57:37,970 --> 00:57:34,980 was and uh he's and so my friend asked 1459 00:57:41,089 --> 00:57:37,980 him well why why did you move and he 1460 00:57:42,710 --> 00:57:41,099 says well he says that's what he said he 1461 00:57:44,089 --> 00:57:42,720 said our country's being taken over by 1462 00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:44,099 reptilians 1463 00:57:48,589 --> 00:57:47,220 and my my friend said at first he 1464 00:57:50,930 --> 00:57:48,599 chuckled and you know he kind of 1465 00:57:53,210 --> 00:57:50,940 chuckled but this guy he says this guy 1466 00:57:55,549 --> 00:57:53,220 went into a tirade of 1467 00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:55,559 of the evidence and stories and and so 1468 00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:57,540 on and so forth and experiences and so 1469 00:58:02,329 --> 00:58:00,599 on and so forth for a long time when my 1470 00:58:03,890 --> 00:58:02,339 friend I guess became kind of hypnotized 1471 00:58:05,210 --> 00:58:03,900 by this by the information even though 1472 00:58:07,970 --> 00:58:05,220 he's a really smart dude he's very 1473 00:58:10,730 --> 00:58:07,980 Discerning but it shook him 1474 00:58:14,089 --> 00:58:10,740 it's he he called me right afterwards he 1475 00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:14,099 said he said dude now this guy just told 1476 00:58:17,210 --> 00:58:15,599 me there's reptilians that are running 1477 00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:17,220 the run in the United States and they're 1478 00:58:21,589 --> 00:58:19,140 taking over and da da da and I'm like 1479 00:58:22,970 --> 00:58:21,599 and I laughed I said yeah I didn't know 1480 00:58:24,290 --> 00:58:22,980 I didn't want to freak him out and say 1481 00:58:25,549 --> 00:58:24,300 yeah I've heard these stories I didn't 1482 00:58:27,710 --> 00:58:25,559 want to I didn't want to you know 1483 00:58:28,910 --> 00:58:27,720 further uh screw up his head that he 1484 00:58:31,370 --> 00:58:28,920 probably just had his head all just 1485 00:58:33,170 --> 00:58:31,380 Twisted with this information I mean you 1486 00:58:36,049 --> 00:58:33,180 kind of delay this information on people 1487 00:58:38,049 --> 00:58:36,059 that have no concept of this you're just 1488 00:58:40,730 --> 00:58:38,059 gonna spin them you know what I'm saying 1489 00:58:42,289 --> 00:58:40,740 uh there's a guy in jail right now 1490 00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,299 that's what to me this is one of the 1491 00:58:46,849 --> 00:58:44,640 best reptilian stories that most people 1492 00:58:49,370 --> 00:58:46,859 don't even know about because it came 1493 00:58:51,289 --> 00:58:49,380 and went pretty quick it was in 2000 I 1494 00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:51,299 think 16 if I'm not mistaken the guy 1495 00:58:54,770 --> 00:58:53,700 named Kyle Odom and you could research 1496 00:58:57,890 --> 00:58:54,780 this 1497 00:58:59,870 --> 00:58:57,900 um he he claimed that uh 1498 00:59:02,089 --> 00:58:59,880 that he was having these experiences 1499 00:59:04,970 --> 00:59:02,099 with these reptilian humanoid kind of 1500 00:59:07,069 --> 00:59:04,980 frog-like reptilian people and they were 1501 00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:07,079 driving him crazy and to the point where 1502 00:59:13,730 --> 00:59:10,260 he he just said I I give up I tried to 1503 00:59:15,530 --> 00:59:13,740 commit suicide and uh he and he locked 1504 00:59:17,870 --> 00:59:15,540 himself in his car he put me I guess he 1505 00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:17,880 had some sort of gas in there and he and 1506 00:59:22,730 --> 00:59:20,099 he tried to just shut the door and and 1507 00:59:25,010 --> 00:59:22,740 just kill himself and he claims that he 1508 00:59:26,809 --> 00:59:25,020 woke up and he was outside the car and 1509 00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:26,819 he was laying in his garage and there 1510 00:59:31,430 --> 00:59:28,740 was these reptilian humanoids that said 1511 00:59:32,809 --> 00:59:31,440 no you know we're not you can't die you 1512 00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,819 know you're gonna help us with our 1513 00:59:35,870 --> 00:59:34,559 message or whatever the story it's a 1514 00:59:39,170 --> 00:59:35,880 long story I'm just trying to make it 1515 00:59:41,270 --> 00:59:39,180 short here but uh anyway so then uh 1516 00:59:44,809 --> 00:59:41,280 uh then he then he had tried to commit 1517 00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:44,819 suicide a second time he failed and then 1518 00:59:49,329 --> 00:59:47,520 now he goes back to this town and uh in 1519 00:59:51,710 --> 00:59:49,339 Idaho of all places Coeur d'Alene Idaho 1520 00:59:54,530 --> 00:59:51,720 where he was I think he was kind of 1521 00:59:56,630 --> 00:59:54,540 where he grew up but he was having these 1522 00:59:58,789 --> 00:59:56,640 experiences in Texas where he had been 1523 01:00:00,890 --> 00:59:58,799 going to MIT at that time a real smart 1524 01:00:02,390 --> 01:00:00,900 dude this guy's not a wackadoo a matter 1525 01:00:04,910 --> 01:00:02,400 of fact he served six years in the 1526 01:00:06,890 --> 01:00:04,920 Marines and and then he and then he he 1527 01:00:08,450 --> 01:00:06,900 quit honorable discharge after six years 1528 01:00:10,910 --> 01:00:08,460 didn't want to do that anymore wanted to 1529 01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:10,920 start studying uh you know science and 1530 01:00:15,049 --> 01:00:13,140 and stuff like that anyway so he goes 1531 01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,059 back to Coeur d'Alene Idaho and there's 1532 01:00:19,130 --> 01:00:17,280 a pastor at this particular Church name 1533 01:00:21,950 --> 01:00:19,140 uh 1534 01:00:23,809 --> 01:00:21,960 Steve hold on a second 1535 01:00:25,309 --> 01:00:23,819 ah geez I can't remember it's not coming 1536 01:00:27,829 --> 01:00:25,319 to my head right now but anyway it's 1537 01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:27,839 it's in the it's in um it's called The 1538 01:00:31,490 --> 01:00:29,280 Altar the name of the church is called 1539 01:00:33,710 --> 01:00:31,500 the halter oh wow 1540 01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:33,720 and so he goes to this church 1541 01:00:38,750 --> 01:00:36,240 it is old Hometown and he wants to talk 1542 01:00:40,789 --> 01:00:38,760 to the pastor he wants to try to see if 1543 01:00:42,589 --> 01:00:40,799 he can get help spiritual help he's he's 1544 01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:42,599 starting to wonder man maybe maybe I've 1545 01:00:47,150 --> 01:00:44,220 got some sort of demon bomb or whatever 1546 01:00:49,069 --> 01:00:47,160 I need help so he's talking so he goes 1547 01:00:51,470 --> 01:00:49,079 to the church the pastor has given his 1548 01:00:53,809 --> 01:00:51,480 sermon and after the sermon's over all 1549 01:00:55,609 --> 01:00:53,819 the parishioners leave and he walks up 1550 01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:55,619 to the pastor true story totally true 1551 01:00:59,089 --> 01:00:57,960 story it's all documented and and a 1552 01:01:00,950 --> 01:00:59,099 matter of fact it was been in the news 1553 01:01:04,250 --> 01:01:00,960 it was in the news all over the news 1554 01:01:06,530 --> 01:01:04,260 even like TV and everything and he says 1555 01:01:08,390 --> 01:01:06,540 that he's talking to the pastor and he 1556 01:01:11,150 --> 01:01:08,400 says all of a sudden this pastor shape 1557 01:01:13,789 --> 01:01:11,160 shifts into this reptilian human lead 1558 01:01:16,250 --> 01:01:13,799 and it freaked him out he he didn't he 1559 01:01:19,849 --> 01:01:16,260 didn't like stand there and say that the 1560 01:01:21,770 --> 01:01:19,859 pastor uh you know oh my God you're a 1561 01:01:23,450 --> 01:01:21,780 reptilian he just kind of it just you 1562 01:01:25,849 --> 01:01:23,460 know he I think he kept his mouth shut 1563 01:01:28,730 --> 01:01:25,859 freaked him out he excused himself left 1564 01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:28,740 and then went home uh in his hometown 1565 01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:29,940 there in Coeur d'Alene where he was 1566 01:01:34,130 --> 01:01:32,520 staying with his family I believe and he 1567 01:01:36,710 --> 01:01:34,140 decided that he was going to get some 1568 01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:36,720 firearms and go back the next week and 1569 01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:40,079 he was going to kill this pastor 1570 01:01:44,690 --> 01:01:42,240 he believed this pastor was like a 1571 01:01:46,370 --> 01:01:44,700 shape-shifting reptilian so again he 1572 01:01:48,349 --> 01:01:46,380 waits for the the he's out in the 1573 01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:48,359 parking lot and he's waiting for the 1574 01:01:52,430 --> 01:01:50,700 pastor to leave the the church after the 1575 01:01:54,349 --> 01:01:52,440 Sunday Gatherings and whatnot so the 1576 01:01:55,789 --> 01:01:54,359 church so everybody's gone the pastor's 1577 01:01:56,870 --> 01:01:55,799 Alaska to leave he's going to the 1578 01:01:59,510 --> 01:01:56,880 parking lot he's out there in the 1579 01:02:02,210 --> 01:01:59,520 parking lot and so then Kyle gets out of 1580 01:02:04,730 --> 01:02:02,220 his car he's got a very powerful firearm 1581 01:02:07,609 --> 01:02:04,740 I forget what type it was and he walks 1582 01:02:10,490 --> 01:02:07,619 up to this pastor like Point Blank 1583 01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:10,500 we're talking like a few feet away 1584 01:02:15,230 --> 01:02:13,020 and he fires I think it was seven or 1585 01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:15,240 eight shots if I'm not mistaken right 1586 01:02:20,089 --> 01:02:17,900 into various key areas of this guy's 1587 01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:20,099 Anatomy because he says that you know I 1588 01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:22,260 know how to shoot I know how to kill I 1589 01:02:25,910 --> 01:02:24,420 was trained in the Marines I went right 1590 01:02:27,410 --> 01:02:25,920 for the areas where I knew that I could 1591 01:02:31,190 --> 01:02:27,420 kill this guy 1592 01:02:34,490 --> 01:02:31,200 and uh so then so the guy the guy drops 1593 01:02:36,410 --> 01:02:34,500 the pastor drops Kyle Odom jumps in his 1594 01:02:38,390 --> 01:02:36,420 car and he takes off 1595 01:02:41,930 --> 01:02:38,400 and um 1596 01:02:45,289 --> 01:02:41,940 long story short uh the pastor lived 1597 01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,299 and and then there was the report was 1598 01:02:48,470 --> 01:02:46,799 that when they got to the scene where 1599 01:02:51,170 --> 01:02:48,480 the pastor had been shot 1600 01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:51,180 and they opened up uh I guess he had 1601 01:02:54,289 --> 01:02:52,980 like a sports coat on like a suit you 1602 01:02:57,829 --> 01:02:54,299 know some of the guys wear suits when 1603 01:03:01,730 --> 01:02:57,839 they're preaching and and the bullets 1604 01:03:06,530 --> 01:03:03,170 would have gone through the guy's suit 1605 01:03:09,349 --> 01:03:06,540 into his body just fell out of his suit 1606 01:03:12,289 --> 01:03:09,359 but they never even penetrated his suit 1607 01:03:14,750 --> 01:03:12,299 um so the guy eventually recovered 1608 01:03:17,089 --> 01:03:14,760 um Kyle Odom got 10 a 10 a 25-year 1609 01:03:19,370 --> 01:03:17,099 sentence for attempted murder and he's 1610 01:03:23,089 --> 01:03:19,380 but he's got 10 years if he's good boy 1611 01:03:26,210 --> 01:03:23,099 he gets off in 10 years on probation 1612 01:03:28,490 --> 01:03:26,220 um and so so I actually went to Coeur 1613 01:03:30,530 --> 01:03:28,500 d'Alene Idaho a few years ago because I 1614 01:03:33,470 --> 01:03:30,540 wanted to see the I wanted to go see the 1615 01:03:35,089 --> 01:03:33,480 area I wanted to see the church uh the 1616 01:03:37,010 --> 01:03:35,099 pastor I knew he was there I knew he was 1617 01:03:39,710 --> 01:03:37,020 he was had recovered and he was speaking 1618 01:03:41,990 --> 01:03:39,720 so I so I drove there I got in I 1619 01:03:43,130 --> 01:03:42,000 recorded all this too and I went in 1620 01:03:45,170 --> 01:03:43,140 there and I'm sitting there in the 1621 01:03:47,270 --> 01:03:45,180 church and these two and there was it 1622 01:03:49,910 --> 01:03:47,280 was packed I mean he had these people 1623 01:03:52,730 --> 01:03:49,920 mesmerized I mean uh I had that he was 1624 01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,740 he was a nice guy but I had this really 1625 01:03:55,970 --> 01:03:54,720 kind of this Jim Jones feeling about it 1626 01:03:58,010 --> 01:03:55,980 where it's just these people were under 1627 01:04:01,970 --> 01:03:58,020 his guy's spell and I'm not exaggerating 1628 01:04:04,730 --> 01:04:01,980 they they they loved this man and uh 1629 01:04:06,770 --> 01:04:04,740 and anyway it just was a really kind of 1630 01:04:08,809 --> 01:04:06,780 a creepy feeling 1631 01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:08,819 and then so after that little sermon 1632 01:04:13,190 --> 01:04:11,339 that he'd given I I approached him and 1633 01:04:14,990 --> 01:04:13,200 talked to him I didn't mention Kyle Odom 1634 01:04:17,450 --> 01:04:15,000 because I didn't want to tip him off as 1635 01:04:19,849 --> 01:04:17,460 to why I was there and he was friendly 1636 01:04:22,010 --> 01:04:19,859 with me and then this other guy that was 1637 01:04:24,589 --> 01:04:22,020 kind of like the the second in line to 1638 01:04:26,930 --> 01:04:24,599 the to this uh preacher he he comes up 1639 01:04:28,970 --> 01:04:26,940 to me and he says uh so hey how you 1640 01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:28,980 doing uh you you live here and he's you 1641 01:04:33,950 --> 01:04:30,720 know he's trying to qualify my situation 1642 01:04:35,450 --> 01:04:33,960 and so I'm saying yeah no I so I I had 1643 01:04:36,589 --> 01:04:35,460 to kind of BS him a little bit because I 1644 01:04:39,950 --> 01:04:36,599 didn't wanted to know why I was there 1645 01:04:41,870 --> 01:04:39,960 but this guy I could totally tell he was 1646 01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:41,880 completely suspicious of me 1647 01:04:47,809 --> 01:04:44,760 he he was he I could I just sensed that 1648 01:04:49,490 --> 01:04:47,819 he knew somehow why I was there but we 1649 01:04:50,690 --> 01:04:49,500 didn't have that conversation verbally 1650 01:04:52,010 --> 01:04:50,700 you know what I'm saying sometimes when 1651 01:04:54,770 --> 01:04:52,020 you're having those conversations with 1652 01:04:56,690 --> 01:04:54,780 people and you could sense 1653 01:04:58,789 --> 01:04:56,700 that you both know what's going on but 1654 01:05:01,069 --> 01:04:58,799 you're just not talking about it 1655 01:05:03,049 --> 01:05:01,079 so yeah so that's another crazy story I 1656 01:05:05,990 --> 01:05:03,059 should look into that Kyle Odum he wrote 1657 01:05:08,809 --> 01:05:06,000 a Manifesto I think it was 21 pages and 1658 01:05:11,049 --> 01:05:08,819 later in the manifesto he claims 1659 01:05:14,089 --> 01:05:11,059 all these government figures as Senators 1660 01:05:16,130 --> 01:05:14,099 congressmen's uh including Nancy Pelosi 1661 01:05:17,890 --> 01:05:16,140 by the way and several other key uh 1662 01:05:20,329 --> 01:05:17,900 figures that are still in Congress 1663 01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:20,339 including and also a whole list of 1664 01:05:25,609 --> 01:05:24,480 Israeli uh uh uh politicians he says 1665 01:05:27,890 --> 01:05:25,619 these are these people are all 1666 01:05:31,430 --> 01:05:27,900 reptilians is what he said 1667 01:05:34,849 --> 01:05:31,440 true story you can look it up great that 1668 01:05:38,329 --> 01:05:34,859 is so cool I have gotta check this out 1669 01:05:40,430 --> 01:05:38,339 because there's so much there you know 1670 01:05:42,049 --> 01:05:40,440 whether it's extraterrestrial shape 1671 01:05:44,569 --> 01:05:42,059 shifters 1672 01:05:46,150 --> 01:05:44,579 um the seven serpents of Vortex portals 1673 01:05:48,770 --> 01:05:46,160 which uh you know 1674 01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:48,780 it's it's amazing you look into this 1675 01:05:55,490 --> 01:05:52,319 stuff and reptilian humanoids um 1676 01:05:57,710 --> 01:05:55,500 anthropomorphic reptiles are fictional 1677 01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:57,720 creatures that appear in folklore and 1678 01:06:01,690 --> 01:06:00,480 basically every culture on the planet if 1679 01:06:05,329 --> 01:06:01,700 you want to call it 1680 01:06:08,630 --> 01:06:05,339 whether it's a fact or not is just it's 1681 01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:08,640 fascinating to me how far back it goes 1682 01:06:13,370 --> 01:06:11,760 and and how relatable it is to current 1683 01:06:16,309 --> 01:06:13,380 times you know that we are still 1684 01:06:18,770 --> 01:06:16,319 pointing to our leaders and our Elites 1685 01:06:21,530 --> 01:06:18,780 much like they did in the legendary you 1686 01:06:24,470 --> 01:06:21,540 know past as far back as 2500 BC 1687 01:06:27,650 --> 01:06:24,480 according to Tex found it you know 1688 01:06:29,569 --> 01:06:27,660 ancient sites and um we're saying the 1689 01:06:31,910 --> 01:06:29,579 same thing we're pointing to our leaders 1690 01:06:34,309 --> 01:06:31,920 at our Elites and we're basically 1691 01:06:36,349 --> 01:06:34,319 pointing at them and saying the same the 1692 01:06:39,589 --> 01:06:36,359 same things you know that they have some 1693 01:06:42,109 --> 01:06:39,599 sort of reptilian Heritage of or it's 1694 01:06:44,569 --> 01:06:42,119 just wild man it's wild to me that it's 1695 01:06:46,970 --> 01:06:44,579 still going on here's where my mind goes 1696 01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:46,980 is that if you if you look at how you 1697 01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:49,200 know the political structures are set up 1698 01:06:52,849 --> 01:06:50,760 throughout our world throughout the 1699 01:06:56,930 --> 01:06:52,859 United States and other countries 1700 01:06:59,210 --> 01:06:56,940 um if Humanity as a whole was all on 1701 01:07:00,950 --> 01:06:59,220 board with you know let's let's all 1702 01:07:04,490 --> 01:07:00,960 support each other let's do what's best 1703 01:07:06,890 --> 01:07:04,500 for Humanity what's the let's solve 1704 01:07:09,289 --> 01:07:06,900 these issues so on and so forth but it 1705 01:07:11,390 --> 01:07:09,299 always seems like these Elite powers 1706 01:07:14,650 --> 01:07:11,400 that that are in control whether it's 1707 01:07:16,910 --> 01:07:14,660 through politics or or to uh 1708 01:07:18,770 --> 01:07:16,920 Pharmaceuticals or I mean like you know 1709 01:07:21,230 --> 01:07:18,780 you got the bilderbergs you got the uh 1710 01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:21,240 you've got all sorts of you know things 1711 01:07:24,289 --> 01:07:22,559 that are happening behind the scenes 1712 01:07:26,150 --> 01:07:24,299 you've got the Bohemian Grove and you 1713 01:07:28,849 --> 01:07:26,160 hear all these stories but but it 1714 01:07:29,930 --> 01:07:28,859 appears to me like whoever these people 1715 01:07:32,630 --> 01:07:29,940 are 1716 01:07:34,910 --> 01:07:32,640 they do not have the best interest of 1717 01:07:37,130 --> 01:07:34,920 humanity in any of the decisions that 1718 01:07:39,829 --> 01:07:37,140 they make it all seems to be geared 1719 01:07:42,589 --> 01:07:39,839 towards an agenda that keeps them at the 1720 01:07:44,150 --> 01:07:42,599 top of the pyramid and we're all just 1721 01:07:46,190 --> 01:07:44,160 kind of we're just kind of slipping 1722 01:07:48,410 --> 01:07:46,200 through the cracks of some of us to be 1723 01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:48,420 able to live our lives hopefully in the 1724 01:07:52,730 --> 01:07:50,640 best fashion we can but if they have an 1725 01:07:55,730 --> 01:07:52,740 opportunity to squash a whole group of 1726 01:07:57,529 --> 01:07:55,740 people uh through whatever you know just 1727 01:07:59,270 --> 01:07:57,539 this whole population control I mean you 1728 01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:59,280 could go down that rabbit hole it just 1729 01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,200 doesn't make sense none of it makes 1730 01:08:04,910 --> 01:08:02,880 sense while things why things are 1731 01:08:07,849 --> 01:08:04,920 happening the way they are 1732 01:08:09,890 --> 01:08:07,859 it's wild and you know when you look at 1733 01:08:11,990 --> 01:08:09,900 the list of 1734 01:08:13,609 --> 01:08:12,000 um secretaries of the United States 1735 01:08:14,630 --> 01:08:13,619 which obviously comes from the word 1736 01:08:17,150 --> 01:08:14,640 Secret 1737 01:08:21,950 --> 01:08:17,160 so they're the secretaries of the United 1738 01:08:24,769 --> 01:08:21,960 States you have uh you know the uh 1739 01:08:28,970 --> 01:08:24,779 Secretary of the United States Treasury 1740 01:08:31,669 --> 01:08:28,980 Secretary of the army Secretary of uh 1741 01:08:34,150 --> 01:08:31,679 United Nations and 1742 01:08:37,130 --> 01:08:34,160 um secretary it's just very interesting 1743 01:08:38,809 --> 01:08:37,140 that these are secretaries so in other 1744 01:08:41,689 --> 01:08:38,819 words they are holding secrets and 1745 01:08:44,870 --> 01:08:41,699 something that blew my mind recently and 1746 01:08:46,550 --> 01:08:44,880 I I realized just how little I know was 1747 01:08:49,090 --> 01:08:46,560 I was speaking with someone and they 1748 01:08:51,709 --> 01:08:49,100 said well you know the word government 1749 01:08:53,870 --> 01:08:51,719 basically just means mind control and I 1750 01:08:56,030 --> 01:08:53,880 said come on and yeah sure enough you 1751 01:08:58,729 --> 01:08:56,040 look at the Latin root and no wonder 1752 01:09:01,309 --> 01:08:58,739 nobody is allowed to uh really study and 1753 01:09:04,309 --> 01:09:01,319 nobody hardly ever you know that you see 1754 01:09:05,870 --> 01:09:04,319 anymore knows Latin or speaks Latin this 1755 01:09:10,309 --> 01:09:05,880 is something that back you know in the 1756 01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:10,319 20s 30s 40s 50s even 60s some people had 1757 01:09:14,689 --> 01:09:13,199 some knowledge of the Latin root of all 1758 01:09:17,090 --> 01:09:14,699 words and this is something that is 1759 01:09:20,530 --> 01:09:17,100 completely a dead language now unless 1760 01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:20,540 you're talking about the Vatican and 1761 01:09:27,950 --> 01:09:24,960 man yeah government govern the mentality 1762 01:09:30,890 --> 01:09:27,960 or govern the mind of the people so it's 1763 01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:30,900 literally government is mind control 1764 01:09:37,010 --> 01:09:34,020 um I've realized just how naive I was 1765 01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:37,020 but it's it's the real deal man I I the 1766 01:09:41,870 --> 01:09:39,359 more I look at uh some of these things I 1767 01:09:44,030 --> 01:09:41,880 I know that I'm not gonna ever get a job 1768 01:09:46,189 --> 01:09:44,040 if I learn Latin but it might be 1769 01:09:49,550 --> 01:09:46,199 something that uh maybe we should look 1770 01:09:52,849 --> 01:09:49,560 into because it seems to uh kind of be 1771 01:09:55,430 --> 01:09:52,859 the chain of secrets that goes back and 1772 01:09:57,350 --> 01:09:55,440 you know is not as easily hid behind the 1773 01:10:00,410 --> 01:09:57,360 veil 1774 01:10:03,110 --> 01:10:00,420 yeah I mean uh everything's it seems to 1775 01:10:04,970 --> 01:10:03,120 me like there's some sort of uh 1776 01:10:07,550 --> 01:10:04,980 I don't know even the word for it but 1777 01:10:10,370 --> 01:10:07,560 where it's all it's like they whoever 1778 01:10:11,810 --> 01:10:10,380 they are they they part of their system 1779 01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,820 is that they're gonna put the 1780 01:10:16,070 --> 01:10:13,679 information out there 1781 01:10:18,229 --> 01:10:16,080 so it's almost like like you mentioned 1782 01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:18,239 the Vatican if you've seen some of the 1783 01:10:22,910 --> 01:10:20,520 pictures of the Pope in in the in this 1784 01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:22,920 huge chamber where it's it's got the it 1785 01:10:26,750 --> 01:10:24,840 looks like a giant snake with the two 1786 01:10:29,950 --> 01:10:26,760 eyes and the skin and then it's got that 1787 01:10:33,350 --> 01:10:29,960 creature that so is supposed to be Jesus 1788 01:10:35,810 --> 01:10:33,360 but when you if not Jesus 1789 01:10:37,490 --> 01:10:35,820 and so people I've I've the Reese and 1790 01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:37,500 again I can't prove this or verify it's 1791 01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:39,060 true but I'm just repeating what I've 1792 01:10:48,890 --> 01:10:42,000 read uh you know that the the Catholic 1793 01:10:54,410 --> 01:10:51,169 oh I lost you man 1794 01:10:56,570 --> 01:10:54,420 what the hell was that that was weird 1795 01:10:58,250 --> 01:10:56,580 that was very weird but I'm glad you 1796 01:11:00,890 --> 01:10:58,260 mentioned the pope because he does wear 1797 01:11:03,830 --> 01:11:00,900 that fish hat which is back to the uh 1798 01:11:05,450 --> 01:11:03,840 the Dagon you know he wears the Dagon 1799 01:11:06,729 --> 01:11:05,460 fish hat 1800 01:11:08,810 --> 01:11:06,739 yes 1801 01:11:10,790 --> 01:11:08,820 unbelievable yep 1802 01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:10,800 so yeah the bottom the bottling is that 1803 01:11:15,830 --> 01:11:13,440 they're uh you know there's the the you 1804 01:11:17,510 --> 01:11:15,840 know the the Bible for I just learned 1805 01:11:19,729 --> 01:11:17,520 this recently there was there was about 1806 01:11:21,950 --> 01:11:19,739 14 books The Book of Enoch the book of 1807 01:11:24,169 --> 01:11:21,960 dead the book of the several obviously 1808 01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:24,179 others but we're all included in the 1809 01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:26,640 ancient knowledge back in the 1600s but 1810 01:11:31,850 --> 01:11:28,980 then around 1647 or somewhere in that 1811 01:11:33,830 --> 01:11:31,860 era uh the the the Vatican decided to 1812 01:11:35,630 --> 01:11:33,840 remove those books and then they had the 1813 01:11:36,950 --> 01:11:35,640 Old Testament and then later in the New 1814 01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,960 Testament 1815 01:11:43,010 --> 01:11:39,120 um so and then so the narrative is 1816 01:11:45,410 --> 01:11:43,020 always being uh you know molded in such 1817 01:11:48,169 --> 01:11:45,420 a way to where you could keep the masses 1818 01:11:50,810 --> 01:11:48,179 kind of in in the dark about uh history 1819 01:11:52,310 --> 01:11:50,820 and and and then you know with this oh 1820 01:11:53,630 --> 01:11:52,320 they know that you missing you 1821 01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:53,640 misunderstood that that was a 1822 01:11:57,649 --> 01:11:55,679 misinterpretation and there's always 1823 01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,659 they've always got a great answer you 1824 01:12:01,310 --> 01:11:59,760 know what I mean it's kind of trippy how 1825 01:12:03,050 --> 01:12:01,320 they kind of slip and slide around these 1826 01:12:06,310 --> 01:12:03,060 things but and they're never going to 1827 01:12:09,770 --> 01:12:06,320 talk about it on the news hell no 1828 01:12:11,450 --> 01:12:09,780 not at all just trust the science yeah 1829 01:12:12,410 --> 01:12:11,460 you want to stay for the record anybody 1830 01:12:14,810 --> 01:12:12,420 that's listening to this conversation 1831 01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:14,820 we're just having a conversation that's 1832 01:12:19,729 --> 01:12:17,460 all it is they always go they always go 1833 01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:19,739 way deeper than we expect don't they 1834 01:12:22,970 --> 01:12:21,659 they just it's like let's just scratch 1835 01:12:24,649 --> 01:12:22,980 the surface the next thing you know 1836 01:12:28,430 --> 01:12:24,659 we're both standing there with shovels 1837 01:12:31,790 --> 01:12:28,440 and we're deeper than we ever imagined 1838 01:12:32,649 --> 01:12:31,800 man yeah like you want to wrap it up 1839 01:12:34,910 --> 01:12:32,659 yeah 1840 01:12:36,410 --> 01:12:34,920 the Indians that lady her name is 1841 01:12:38,450 --> 01:12:36,420 Roxanne that was talking about the 1842 01:12:41,149 --> 01:12:38,460 Bigfoot uh and I recorded this story 1843 01:12:42,709 --> 01:12:41,159 it's about a 22 minute story uh I'll uh 1844 01:12:44,330 --> 01:12:42,719 have to make another I'll send it to you 1845 01:12:46,130 --> 01:12:44,340 you can listen to it 1846 01:12:48,770 --> 01:12:46,140 um she talks about in their culture out 1847 01:12:52,970 --> 01:12:48,780 there in the Idaho the black feet 1848 01:12:54,050 --> 01:12:52,980 Indian tribe Blackfoot that uh that at 1849 01:12:56,270 --> 01:12:54,060 one time 1850 01:12:58,850 --> 01:12:56,280 there were the natives that lived there 1851 01:13:00,530 --> 01:12:58,860 on you know it was just natives like now 1852 01:13:03,310 --> 01:13:00,540 type people 1853 01:13:07,130 --> 01:13:03,320 and at one time there was a race of 1854 01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:07,140 beautiful uh Indian people 1855 01:13:12,729 --> 01:13:09,360 beautiful men and women that that 1856 01:13:15,050 --> 01:13:12,739 somehow came into their their their 1857 01:13:16,610 --> 01:13:15,060 reservation or their culture they were 1858 01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:16,620 they were suddenly a part of their 1859 01:13:20,750 --> 01:13:18,960 culture and she said that these 1860 01:13:23,870 --> 01:13:20,760 beautiful people 1861 01:13:25,010 --> 01:13:23,880 um were very arrogant they were they 1862 01:13:27,649 --> 01:13:25,020 thought they were better than everybody 1863 01:13:29,390 --> 01:13:27,659 else and she goes on and on and on she's 1864 01:13:32,450 --> 01:13:29,400 telling this story 1865 01:13:35,870 --> 01:13:32,460 and then she said that our god 1866 01:13:38,689 --> 01:13:35,880 um sent these people here not for the 1867 01:13:40,370 --> 01:13:38,699 purpose of behaving in this way 1868 01:13:42,649 --> 01:13:40,380 um there was there was some other 1869 01:13:43,850 --> 01:13:42,659 purpose now in the 22-minute talk she's 1870 01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:43,860 not going to be able to explain 1871 01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:46,020 everything but she's kind of telling a 1872 01:13:49,910 --> 01:13:47,820 Reader's Digest version of the story 1873 01:13:53,149 --> 01:13:49,920 while she's speaking but the bottom line 1874 01:13:55,250 --> 01:13:53,159 is this is she says that their God 1875 01:13:57,950 --> 01:13:55,260 was not happy with these beautiful 1876 01:14:00,410 --> 01:13:57,960 people that that they had brought and 1877 01:14:03,410 --> 01:14:00,420 put amongst this community uh this 1878 01:14:04,669 --> 01:14:03,420 reservation and so this God cursed these 1879 01:14:07,550 --> 01:14:04,679 beautiful people 1880 01:14:11,330 --> 01:14:07,560 and as a result of that curse 1881 01:14:14,630 --> 01:14:11,340 um he turned or he he it this God turn 1882 01:14:16,130 --> 01:14:14,640 these people into uh creatures ugly 1883 01:14:21,590 --> 01:14:16,140 creatures 1884 01:14:23,810 --> 01:14:21,600 they were banished from the tribe 1885 01:14:24,770 --> 01:14:23,820 and they were being punished and so she 1886 01:14:26,570 --> 01:14:24,780 says 1887 01:14:29,390 --> 01:14:26,580 that these 1888 01:14:31,970 --> 01:14:29,400 people were are what we that were 1889 01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:31,980 banished and turned into creatures are 1890 01:14:36,830 --> 01:14:35,219 now what we refer to as the Bigfoot 1891 01:14:37,910 --> 01:14:36,840 whoa 1892 01:14:41,149 --> 01:14:37,920 yeah 1893 01:14:43,610 --> 01:14:41,159 and that they still come around on the 1894 01:14:45,290 --> 01:14:43,620 reservation she says 1895 01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:45,300 not last year 1896 01:14:50,990 --> 01:14:48,480 not last month not last week 1897 01:14:54,050 --> 01:14:51,000 but they're still coming around and she 1898 01:14:57,470 --> 01:14:54,060 says we we understand we don't interact 1899 01:14:59,330 --> 01:14:57,480 with them uh we we feed them 1900 01:15:01,729 --> 01:14:59,340 we give them gifts 1901 01:15:03,830 --> 01:15:01,739 it's it's kind of part of their uh 1902 01:15:05,390 --> 01:15:03,840 protection I'm assuming I didn't get a 1903 01:15:07,070 --> 01:15:05,400 chance to I've got her phone number this 1904 01:15:08,689 --> 01:15:07,080 is about this is I'll tell you what I'll 1905 01:15:11,030 --> 01:15:08,699 get you her number she'd be a great 1906 01:15:13,610 --> 01:15:11,040 conversation but anyway it's interesting 1907 01:15:15,649 --> 01:15:13,620 that that that's their story so you know 1908 01:15:17,390 --> 01:15:15,659 other Indians thrives might have a 1909 01:15:20,709 --> 01:15:17,400 different story but but I thought that 1910 01:15:23,570 --> 01:15:20,719 was fascinating man what a spiritual 1911 01:15:26,570 --> 01:15:23,580 authentic declaration I mean that's 1912 01:15:28,910 --> 01:15:26,580 pretty amazing and man like I'm sorry 1913 01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:28,920 that we got we go so deep and usually 1914 01:15:32,990 --> 01:15:30,960 over time 1915 01:15:35,030 --> 01:15:33,000 um yeah we we do dig those holes for 1916 01:15:37,250 --> 01:15:35,040 ourselves don't we but man you always 1917 01:15:40,070 --> 01:15:37,260 have the best Cutting Edge recent 1918 01:15:43,490 --> 01:15:40,080 information on developments that 1919 01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:43,500 interest me and whether it's the UFO UAP 1920 01:15:49,729 --> 01:15:47,760 subject conspiracy cryptozoology uh 1921 01:15:52,189 --> 01:15:49,739 mysterious dimensional phenomena you 1922 01:15:54,169 --> 01:15:52,199 always knock my socks off I'm blown away 1923 01:15:57,050 --> 01:15:54,179 I was looking forward to this podcast 1924 01:15:59,270 --> 01:15:57,060 because although we talk often we rarely 1925 01:16:02,270 --> 01:15:59,280 contribute a full hour or more at this 1926 01:16:04,130 --> 01:16:02,280 point to discussing these things and 1927 01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:04,140 really kind of rolling up our sleeves 1928 01:16:08,030 --> 01:16:06,179 and getting into it I love it can't 1929 01:16:10,370 --> 01:16:08,040 thank you enough for taking the time out 1930 01:16:12,649 --> 01:16:10,380 of your busy day to come on and discuss 1931 01:16:15,050 --> 01:16:12,659 this tantalizing research on things that 1932 01:16:17,689 --> 01:16:15,060 are just so mysterious in nature our 1933 01:16:20,570 --> 01:16:17,699 reality is much more than it appears to 1934 01:16:23,030 --> 01:16:20,580 be thank you so much Eric where can 1935 01:16:25,850 --> 01:16:23,040 listeners keep up with your adventures 1936 01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:25,860 and support your efforts 1937 01:16:31,550 --> 01:16:29,460 yeah I I prefer to stay on the low 1938 01:16:33,709 --> 01:16:31,560 profile I mean I am on Twitter at 1939 01:16:35,630 --> 01:16:33,719 Awakening man 1940 01:16:37,729 --> 01:16:35,640 um and you know I tell these stories to 1941 01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:37,739 my friends and people that you know I I 1942 01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:40,620 really try not to be public I of course 1943 01:16:45,290 --> 01:16:43,860 just because I I don't want to well my 1944 01:16:46,550 --> 01:16:45,300 friend says you know what you got to be 1945 01:16:48,169 --> 01:16:46,560 careful with some of the things you talk 1946 01:16:50,990 --> 01:16:48,179 you're going to get yourself on a list 1947 01:16:52,610 --> 01:16:51,000 I'm like hope I said dude I don't want 1948 01:16:54,169 --> 01:16:52,620 to be on a list I'm just going out and 1949 01:16:55,910 --> 01:16:54,179 looking at these stories and I'm just 1950 01:16:57,410 --> 01:16:55,920 telling the stories I'm not accusing 1951 01:16:59,450 --> 01:16:57,420 anybody of anything I'm not saying 1952 01:17:01,250 --> 01:16:59,460 they're real or they're not real I'm not 1953 01:17:03,770 --> 01:17:01,260 trying to promote any conspiracy 1954 01:17:06,050 --> 01:17:03,780 theories I'm not trying to talk uh trash 1955 01:17:08,030 --> 01:17:06,060 about our government or anything so I 1956 01:17:10,250 --> 01:17:08,040 just want to make that disclaimer but 1957 01:17:12,830 --> 01:17:10,260 like we just it's it's fascinating 1958 01:17:15,649 --> 01:17:12,840 because there's so many stories that in 1959 01:17:18,169 --> 01:17:15,659 my mind there's got to be some uh threat 1960 01:17:21,290 --> 01:17:18,179 of Truth in some of these stories that's 1961 01:17:23,930 --> 01:17:21,300 just the way I see it Amen brother thank 1962 01:17:25,250 --> 01:17:23,940 you so much Eric 1963 01:17:28,430 --> 01:17:25,260 all right you buddy have a good day I'll 1964 01:17:31,790 --> 01:17:28,440 talk to you soon all right bye-bye 1965 01:17:35,570 --> 01:17:31,800 man oh man I always love talking to Eric 1966 01:17:38,090 --> 01:17:35,580 he is just the best we always kind of go 1967 01:17:41,750 --> 01:17:38,100 into areas that maybe we shouldn't go 1968 01:17:43,850 --> 01:17:41,760 into so much and you know um I also too 1969 01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:43,860 need to make that disclaimer that I am 1970 01:17:51,050 --> 01:17:46,560 not uh talking on government at all just 1971 01:17:52,010 --> 01:17:51,060 correlations to historical cultures and 1972 01:17:54,110 --> 01:17:52,020 how 1973 01:17:55,790 --> 01:17:54,120 um it seems that the masses are 1974 01:17:58,270 --> 01:17:55,800 typically pointing at those who govern 1975 01:18:01,550 --> 01:17:58,280 them it's interesting that government 1976 01:18:04,790 --> 01:18:01,560 does have that Latin tie it doesn't mean 1977 01:18:06,890 --> 01:18:04,800 that that is what it is uh so let me get 1978 01:18:09,470 --> 01:18:06,900 that disclaimer out there 1979 01:18:13,250 --> 01:18:09,480 um I do think it's pretty fishy how the 1980 01:18:16,610 --> 01:18:13,260 pope wears a Dagon hat of course the 1981 01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:16,620 Dagon is uh you know the reptilian or 1982 01:18:22,729 --> 01:18:19,920 fish God the dragon and 1983 01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:22,739 um it is also I think very interesting 1984 01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:24,719 that 1985 01:18:31,130 --> 01:18:29,520 you know Dagan is uh well connected to 1986 01:18:33,590 --> 01:18:31,140 and 1987 01:18:37,430 --> 01:18:33,600 um goes into uh 1988 01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:37,440 L and ball so there's Dagon and then 1989 01:18:42,530 --> 01:18:40,320 there is l e l and then that goes into 1990 01:18:43,970 --> 01:18:42,540 ball and of course we all know about the 1991 01:18:46,669 --> 01:18:43,980 cult of ball 1992 01:18:48,830 --> 01:18:46,679 the Canaanites the Pharaohs um its 1993 01:18:52,130 --> 01:18:48,840 connection to Babylon the connection to 1994 01:18:55,729 --> 01:18:52,140 Rome and Judea the Vatican connection to 1995 01:18:59,450 --> 01:18:55,739 the Templars connection to the kazars 1996 01:19:02,570 --> 01:18:59,460 um connection to uh Switzerland and uh 1997 01:19:04,729 --> 01:19:02,580 of course the Masons the Jesuits and 1998 01:19:07,729 --> 01:19:04,739 later the Illuminati and the United 1999 01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:07,739 States of America so it's interesting 2000 01:19:14,330 --> 01:19:11,280 that the Pope's miter hat which can only 2001 01:19:18,110 --> 01:19:14,340 be a pagan fish god of Ancient Babylonia 2002 01:19:21,229 --> 01:19:18,120 is um sported by the 2003 01:19:23,810 --> 01:19:21,239 hero and the principal authority of 2004 01:19:27,410 --> 01:19:23,820 Christianity to to say that there is not 2005 01:19:29,810 --> 01:19:27,420 a connection would be a blatant lie and 2006 01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,820 let's not go too far if you want to get 2007 01:19:36,290 --> 01:19:32,159 into the occult circles we have the 2008 01:19:39,830 --> 01:19:36,300 Baphomet who obviously has wings uh the 2009 01:19:44,450 --> 01:19:39,840 head of a goat an illuminative light 2010 01:19:47,810 --> 01:19:44,460 Beacon above him of course the Moon and 2011 01:19:49,970 --> 01:19:47,820 the Sun or it's the Opposites on either 2012 01:19:52,729 --> 01:19:49,980 side of his hands and 2013 01:19:56,630 --> 01:19:52,739 possibly the most telling would be that 2014 01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:56,640 the genitalia or what is in that area is 2015 01:20:02,270 --> 01:19:59,520 quite literally the staff with the two 2016 01:20:05,090 --> 01:20:02,280 serpents climbing above it 2017 01:20:08,090 --> 01:20:05,100 um towards the top so we have uh the 2018 01:20:11,390 --> 01:20:08,100 symbol of modern medicine there 2019 01:20:14,270 --> 01:20:11,400 oddly the uh snake and staff symbol is 2020 01:20:16,970 --> 01:20:14,280 one we all recognize today 2021 01:20:20,149 --> 01:20:16,980 and the wings above it if you uh 2022 01:20:22,790 --> 01:20:20,159 transpose those onto the Baphomet you'll 2023 01:20:25,189 --> 01:20:22,800 notice that all of those are there you 2024 01:20:28,250 --> 01:20:25,199 just don't have the uh 2025 01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:28,260 the human torso and the goat's head or 2026 01:20:34,910 --> 01:20:30,600 the legs but pretty much the entire 2027 01:20:37,250 --> 01:20:34,920 thing is there on that logo and 2028 01:20:39,410 --> 01:20:37,260 it's interesting that snakes would be 2029 01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:39,420 involved with medicine when they're so 2030 01:20:46,490 --> 01:20:42,480 deadly of animals but yet this has more 2031 01:20:50,570 --> 01:20:46,500 of a reference to the knowledge that 2032 01:20:52,910 --> 01:20:50,580 comes of health and it's very plausible 2033 01:20:54,890 --> 01:20:52,920 that there was there was something more 2034 01:20:58,910 --> 01:20:54,900 to this 2035 01:21:01,729 --> 01:20:58,920 um how how many of the knowledgeable 2036 01:21:04,310 --> 01:21:01,739 such as in Greek mythology asclepius 2037 01:21:06,350 --> 01:21:04,320 with his snake and staff that is where 2038 01:21:07,130 --> 01:21:06,360 he got his knowledge and we have in the 2039 01:21:11,030 --> 01:21:07,140 Bible 2040 01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:11,040 where Adam and Eve supposedly bit from 2041 01:21:18,550 --> 01:21:16,320 the apple and eight of this knowledge of 2042 01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:18,560 course apple is now what many devices 2043 01:21:24,649 --> 01:21:21,600 are made in the brand of the Apple 2044 01:21:28,910 --> 01:21:24,659 iPhone the iMac the uh 2045 01:21:31,669 --> 01:21:28,920 MacBook Pro Etc I know I am a 2046 01:21:33,890 --> 01:21:31,679 Eater of the Apple knowledge 2047 01:21:36,649 --> 01:21:33,900 so I guess we're still taking a bite out 2048 01:21:38,810 --> 01:21:36,659 of the apple and 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